Gary

Sorry if I wasn't clear, what I meant by graphical was when numeric values were replaced by pictorial sliders, which I think was where Sonar started.

Was there a version of Cakewalk (not Sonar) that would support PO4 or similar plugins.have CWPR6.01 which I used with various sound cards, modules ect, but would like to replace them with PO4. I have tried but cannot get on with Sonar UI, Band lab is 64 bit so that's out , So was there a CWPR that would support ARIA