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Sandra - Maria Magdalena

Thank you, too! I'd happily read if that part of your post was twice the length.

Which ones are your favorite?

https://electronicmusic.fandom.com/wiki/Voyetra_8

It's always fun to read your posts! This sounds like "Seinfeld" Is Unfunny phenomenon: I wasn't satisfied with MusicLab RealGuitar's realism either. But we were talking about who started it first. Only thing roughly comparable to RealGuitar was Wizoo's Virtual Guitarist (branded as Steinberg), but it was a loop player as you said. RealGuitar samples weren't great. I don't know how new versions perform today. However, there are pros who still use Triton's guitar patches in records and media, and there are pros who'd never even do guitar comping, let alone virtual guitars. Understandable. Kontakt has been the industry standard for 3rd party sample library developers, and it was easy to deconstruct compared to VSTs written in C++. People would copy the first good models. That's cool! I actually have some Kontakt business plans that also involve virtual guitars. I consider myself competitive in programming, but I have subpar sampling conditions: No soundproof room, no good mics, no multi-input audio interface. So I will just sample my bass and electric guitar's DI, and work with that. Based on what I understand from your posts regarding guitar VIs; a decent player & strumming engine (like in OTS) is a bigger selling point than choking the user on many articulations like Prominy does.

That's why I avoid anything from UJAM. With such popularity, it's easy to sound like THAT guy who uses UJAM loops.

Sure, without adjusting the way you play the keyboard, it won't sound like guitar at all. You hit chords like a block, or switch between chords quickly that would be unrealistic on a guitar; then you'll get a harpsichord sound out of an acoustic guitar VI, and Rhodes/Wurli/Clavinet sound out of an electric guitar VI. With all respect to what Greg did following your suggestions, it's MusicLab that set the standard in guitar VIs 20+ years ago. They started with a MIDI FX plugin for Cakewalk called Rhythm'n'Chords to create realistic guitar parts using MIDI. They released the VST version shortly after. Both came with a guitar pattern library. Then they released RealGuitar in around 2003 as VST, and it's been used as a model for almost all the guitar VIs since then. Here is a demonstration of RealGuitar from 2006: You shouldn't need to use a strumming engine for that. A guitar VI to play individual notes can (and does) have an engine to determine, in real time, which strings to fret the notes on, which direction (upstroke/downstroke) the strings will be played, and what articulation to perform; either automatically, or using the note velocity, expression pedal, mod wheel, CC fader position, etc. as a cue. Using keyswitches while playing isn't always difficult either. I'm thinking to get a MIDI foot pedal keyboard for keyswitches. It's a beautiful arrangement. Glad to hear OTS VIs work so well for you.

Both. Playing the guitar VI like a keyboard instrument gives me more control over how notes and chords played. I can voice the same chord with different shapes easily. I don't need to worry about strumming/soloing separation. I can enjoy the instrument, without thinking about the software bits like chord recognition, key switches, tempo syncing... My imperfect performances always sound more authentic than software randomization. I can share my keyboard riffs among all the chromatic VIs.

I want a guitar library with many articulations, velocity layers, and round robins. I never use strumming engines.

Talk Talk - It's My Life

I only tried 8dio's free "Songwriting Guitar", and it was terrible. How are their paid guitar VIs?

The Human League - Don't You Want Me

But but instrument mode...

$10 Arena Rock Drums $20 Assault Drums $50 Modern Doom Drums $5 MIDI drum packs

And I fell asleep.

https://musescore.org/en 🎼🎶

I like The Crown and Shibalba. These two produce decent tones for both clean and high gain.

Which ones are your favorite?

my bloody valentine - slow

Let's make it a shoegazing/noise evening. Edit: Post-punk too!

I own Carbon that I got for free, but I also own AcousticSamples and SoundPaint guitars. I'm not loyal, am I? Update: UJAM seems to be cool about it. I can add the $79 loyalty thing to the cart.

Why do sample library companies use Pulse Downloader? Pulse watermarks the samples to stop piracy?

Slowdive - Shine

$100 for a new license.