Will.

2 hours ago, John Vere said:

 I think it’s auto save! 

Bingo! This is a known issue with CbB too. My every attempt trying to use Autosave in CbB has ended in a guaranteed crash - haven't trying it with Sonar. Think I should try it out. 

FWIW: Session drummer run smooth on myside in Sonar. I can't tell you why Vegas is crashing, I use Premiere.  

Your Input Echo is on. In Sonar Backstage Pass its the little headphone botton. In CbB its the one next to the record button on the right side. 

46 minutes ago, Mr No Name said:

 

good morning John, 

                                  Can you provide a place to find this CBb full installer file you mentioned in your post above.  thanks.

Read the post here to understand what is happening with CbB. When done, click the link in that post to get the web install called Cakewalk Product Center -- it should be the 051 version. 

Click here Link to Installer

3 hours ago, greg54 said:

 However, when I listen on headphones, the issues are either not there or they are barely audible. 

Always trust your Monitors -- Always! Headphones "might"(using it loosely) work on certain drums and instruments, but it will never work for vocals. 

Try the these two. Vahalla Freq Echo (Its free.)  and the Vahalla Supper Massive (Its also free.)

These are two great delay plugins made by Vahalla. 

9 minutes ago, John Vere said:

I was even thinking I should just uninstall CbB 

Thats what I did. 🙂

On 3/17/2024 at 11:55 AM, jeejeestudio said:

Ik kan je vertellen ( I can tell you), dat het 100% geen Nederlands is (it's not Dutch for a 100%). 😁

🤣 Ek kan vir jou vertel, (I can tell you) dit het 100% geen Afrikaans ook in. (Its not afrikaans either.)  🤣 

8 hours ago, Tez said:

UPDATE:

I signed in to Bandlab using Firefox (my default system browser) and stayed signed in. Rebooted my system,  performed sundry activities, following which I launched CbB and had no activation issues, or related activation notifications.  Hopefully, in my case, this fixed the issue, we'll see going forward 😁 

Glad your issue has been solved Tez.

As I have stated many times before, it "sometimes" still requires you to sign in to the bandlab site randomly at times. I have this happen many times in CbB since the in app sign in was introduced. I did my duty to report it on many occassions, but was ignored. Like I've said - if it happens again, I will record the process. 

So far in Sonar, I havent had this issue yet. 

On 3/11/2024 at 3:19 AM, sjoens said:

And has no one noticed Concrete Limiter is now a free module?

Its been available in CbB for . . . since early last year. Cant remember the exact version it was released in, so its not new to Sonar. 

4 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said:

I can assure you that it is not.

It does. I too have my share of login issues from time to time in CbB. When the in app login kicks me out and doesnt want to login again, I have to open my browser, jump to www.bandlab.com sign in there, then back to the app to login - and voila. 

It works with the old sign method for me at least . . . I'll record you the process when I do run in to that problem again. 

6 minutes ago, Noel Borthwick said:

Logging in to bandlab.com is irrelevant.

Not if it works. Which it does. It is still somehow linked to bandlab login. 

I have reported this many times before. You've ignored it, like you're doing now. 

6 hours ago, C. A. Hamman said:

Everytime I open Cakewalk I get the same message that Cakewalk is not activated!? Yet you can see I'm logged in ?? Both in bandlab and in Cakewalk ?? Every time now this is happening ?? Ideas anyone? and before you ask it is version 2024.02 the latest update!

Make sure to login at www.bandlab.com as well. 

1 hour ago, Hillmy said:

Because they didn't publicly announce that you can get all their membership services

It has been on the Cakewalk website for over a month! Before it was even announced on the forum!

It includes access to free Distribution for a year. Free access to thousands of sound libraries, help to build you a fanbase and to stay intouch with them. This offers are a great start for those that are independent in their field. 

Again.

Those who purchase a Backstage Pass now, will always be part of the BACKSTAGE PASS MEMBERSHIP aka "Early Access program." 

You are being given the opportunity to take advantage of this offer and to be an Early Access owner with all its offers included. Its a great and exciting offer to be part of before the general public. 

7 hours ago, Hillmy said:

Sonar has not been released yet. The BandLab Membership includes Early Access to software. Sonar is out of internal beta and is now offered as public early access. When Sonar is released it will no longer be "early access" and no longer be a part of the BandLab Membership. So if you purchase an annual subscription to BandLab Membership for the sole reason of using Sonar, then don't be surprised when you no longer have access to Sonar if it gets released in under a year and you have to actually buy the program to use it again.

Just stating the obvious in case people don't like reading fine AND large print elsewhere and don't like figuring things out. 

This is very very wrong information! 

People should not be reading into this. Bandlab owns Sonar, so it will always be part of a Bandlab's membership - irrespective of new price plans that might come out later | and | if Sonar starts to run on separate servers. It will always be owned by Bandlab. 

Those who purchace a Backstage Pass gets an Early Access membership. This means that if you own a Backstage Pass you have the privilledge of getting the full DAW including new releases and updates before the general Public! Its in the name "B A C K S T A G E P A S S" 

Call it a V.I.P. Membership. 

11 hours ago, sjoens said:

 

CbB

Sonar

Top one is Sonar

Bottom is CbB. 

How I know this?  In Sonar the strips border dividers are thinner than in CbB. 

5 hours ago, sjoens said:

A new graphic issue:  When opening a project saved in CbB, the Inspector bleeds thru from underneath MultiDock views.  

Whats your refresh rate of your monitor? Are you using onboard graphics or a dedicated one? Try to update all your VCredist files - old versions and new versions. 

On 2/13/2024 at 5:50 PM, TheHum said:

Is it possible to have sidechaining in Sonar 6?

Thanks

Steve

You'll have to use it with bus tracks. Lets say you want to sidechain vocals to a track for radio. 

1: Create a Bus

2: Route the  output of the track to a stereo bus. 

3: Insert a sidechain compressor (not all compressors can do sidechain) 

4: Send the vocal track to the compressor input on the stereo bus track. 

5: Tweak until you find your desired effect. 

2 hours ago, Stephen Power said:

I'm mixing 35 audio tracks, one of them is a triangle with 3 hits. It leaves a hissing noise on the tail as it fades out.

Can you advise on what to use to reduce the hiss - and walk me through it please. I've tried the Cakewalk compressor and gate, but I'm not sure if I'm setting them correctly - I'm not experienced with using these tools. Thank you.

p.s. I can't remove or replace the track - the mix is for a competition and all the tracks (35 in total) need to be in place.

 

If you have the Tape Emulator inserted on the Pro Channel, remove that module. Always remember that certain plugins try to emulate the analog hardware, so you might want to use its effect sparingly - especially that gain and mix knob. If you use such a plugin on every track its effect will become more prominent/noticeable. 

On 2/24/2024 at 1:02 PM, Giorgio Gabriel said:

I noticed that TTS-1 will be no longer installed in the future.

This is a cruel thought to have. 😔

On 2/16/2024 at 7:18 AM, Michael Fogarty said:

Hi. I've inherited a 10 song project with many playing errors which I have fixed,  but my master bus is way too hot. I have everything going through buses -drums, vox, organ, piano, guitars, acoustics, etc. The mix is good now, but when I summed everything it's just too hot. Is the best remedy sonically to lower all the buses by the same amount -lets say .3db, or is it ok to just lower the input of the master bus (it would have to be -.6 to not clip. )What effect does that have? Am I hurting something by doing that? Feels weird to have everything going in their hot and just lower it. Or am I making too big a deal out of it? Should I put a clipper at the top of the master bus? (the genre is alternative and the client wants it to sound a bit tough/dirty so I'm not worried about that 
 

PS I know about rolling off the lows of different instruments, etc, but simply across the board on all the songs the master is too hot. Most have over 50 tracks and do restart the whole mix again would be way too tough. It's my fault this happened. I got everything sounding great, but it's just too hot.

The quickest way would be to rebalance your tracks to -9dB going into your Master Bus. 

The best way would be to rebalance your tracks to -9dB going into your Master Bus.

Gain staging seems to be the issue here. Theres also your Pan Laws and the matching levels of all your plugins to the ones on your faders. Your Dynamics could be all over the place, peaks could be hitting the ceiling of some tracks, compression could be off. Amps could be screaming too.  All this contributes to an out of balance track. 

6 hours ago, pulsewalk said:

 I do more heavy automation work due to working with EDM. Cakewalk is mainly for other genres than EDM I'm afraid

I do commercial work and automation works without any issues. I create my own samples in app while doing my Sound Design. 

4 hours ago, Kay Turner said:

I am using a BM 800 condenser mic with a V8 soundcard however when I tried recording vocals, the vocals are recorded together with the instrumental 

You need to setup 2 seperate tracks in any DAW to play you instrumentals and to record your vocals only. Dont use the record button on the "MASTER" track. 

Cakewalk does not have a dedicated "Master" track without the Pan and Record button on it. This is where most confusion amongst newly users running to Cakewalk to do Podcast comes in. 

So your steps will be as follow. 

Drag your instrumental into Cakewalk. Next - hold down "Ctrl and press T" to create an Empty Audio Track. This Empty track is where you will record your voice on - not the Master Track. 

3 hours ago, Simple Verse said:

Am I correct assuming this trick is rather modern thing? I don't think they used this back in the 90's in euro dance? Or what you think? Any sample tracks where this might have been applied during that era?

No. Sidechaining reverb to vocals wasnt really used until the 2000's, but it was a common technique in the film industry on screams and explosions and mostly on claps and snares in both Film and Music. As for the "Sidechain" technique itself - that has been around since the 1930's. 

8 hours ago, Simple Verse said:

Do you mean this trick for EDM? 

 

You don't always have/need to sidechain the reverb. There's NO "secret effect." That lush reverb effect does not always work on every vocal EDM track. Sometimes only a delay is needed. It all depends on the track. You can easily destroy your vocals with compression if it's not needed.  Just because your favorite singer/rapper uses a certain effect - does not mean it will work for you. We use certain effects to fill up the track and if the body is already full and round, using this effect might eat up and muddy up your track - ruining it. Even though it's meant to clean up the vocals. 

In the end it all comes down to your taste and approach to what works for the mix/track. If it is not needed WHY use it? 🙂