Nic

Hey All,

Thanks for all the inputs !! 

But I sorted it out this morning !! 🙂🙂

Hope the steps I wrote down helps someone later in time ! 

Blessed day / Night

Nic

Just now, Nic said:

 

On 11/16/2022 at 7:02 PM, Nic said:

Hi All

My Name is Nic and I'm new to all this!

Obviously I have to Google most of the acronyms (lol) so if you have an answer please keep ot as simple as possible (laymans)

 

OK so this is my setup....(which took 2 weeks to setup😢😭🤣)

1) Midi keyboard (toneport kb37 from line 6)made in USA!!! 

2) Sustain pedal (Tec*Nics ) bought from music shop and made in China!

3) Laptop Core i5 , windows 10 , Cakewalk from bandlab (latest version).

 

So I've setup everything mentioned above and all works satisfactory (so far)

My Problem is ...

I plugged my sustain pedal into the pedal port of the Kb37 , but it isn't registering to sustain the notes played ! 

If you know how to remedy this please help out! 🙏 

 

You can email me directly if you like ....  onlyhvac@gmail.com 

On 11/16/2022 at 11:23 PM, rfssongs said:

Have you accidentally changed the polarity switch on the pedal (I can see one in the picture above)

I've tried both settings (no and nc), but it still is not registering .... even plugged into the other sockets (exp and footswitch) ...  problem is not the pedal .... problem I think is 1) Software setting in cakewalk 2) Changing a default midi setting (C64 reading "Hold")  3) compatability of the output sockets (as none say "Sustain") .... 

On 1/19/2020 at 11:02 PM, msmcleod said:

Have you accidentally enabled a MIDI key-switch in Keyboard Shortcuts?

If it looks like this, that could be your problem:

The above sets the sustain pedal to be your SHIFT key.

Make sure the "Enabled" checkbox is unchecked. For good measure, set the controller to something you'll never use (I've set mine to "breath"). This will stop this happening again if you do decide to enabled MIDI shortcuts e.g.:

 

In the photo you see this is how far I get ..... (if it's even the right place to be for changing midi settings)

On 11/16/2022 at 9:50 PM, msmcleod said:

A common reason for CC64 not working is:
 

 

Problem is that I need to change and save the default setting in "control" (bottom left in PRV) which currently reads " C 64 ...  Hold" to something like "release" or whatever and I can't figure out how to do it ! 

Basically all I want to do is use my sustain pedal as a straight forward sustain .... and my Kb37 Line 6 doesn't have such a port on the back ! 

So I need to "fool" the software into thinking and or acting as if either of the 3 sockets are sustains ....

On 11/16/2022 at 9:01 PM, abacab said:

A sustain pedal is like an on/off switch used to hold notes, while an expression pedal is used to control variable parameters.

https://geekmusician.com/using-sustain-pedal-as-expression-pedal/

https://missionengineering.com/understanding-expression-pedals/

The links are good and very informative, problem is that nowhere does it give step by step instruction on how to change and save a new "midi peramiter" setting in cakewalk on how to "activate" or "change" the current setting in cakewalk which says "C 64 .... hold" ... 

On 11/16/2022 at 8:08 PM, 57Gregy said:

Welcome to the forum.
The Toneport is pretty old. Did you find the correct drivers at the Line 6 web site?
I saw this at their Legacy Products page: "1/4-inch expression pedal jack (software-assignable for controlling GearBox wah, volume or sending MIDI to recording programs)".  I don't know if it can be used as a sustain pedal input.
Have you gotten it to work at all with Cakewalk by Bandlab (CbB)?
 

Thanks G !

On 11/17/2022 at 2:05 AM, rfssongs said:

That doesn't seem right. An expression pedal doesn't look like that, it would look more like a volume pedal. This pedal also seems to have a polarity switch on the side. I can't read the text in the photo but everything about it appears to be a regular sustain pedal to me. If it's a mono (two wire) plug it's a sustain pedal.

yuup guys ! its a straight forward sustain pedal 

my challenge now is .... So, i need to add a MIDI CC into the PRV (and i dont have a CLUE as how to do that, or test) OR ...Replace the defult setting of EXP OR FOOTSWITCH in the midi archive to sustain (which currently reads "HOLD"

regards

Nic

On 11/16/2022 at 9:50 PM, msmcleod said:

A common reason for CC64 not working is:
 

 

my challenge now is .... So, i need to add a MIDI CC (064) into the PRV (and i dont have a CLUE as how to do that, or test) OR ...Replace the default setting of EXP OR FOOTSWITCH in the midi archive to sustain (which currently reads "HOLD")

On 11/16/2022 at 9:01 PM, abacab said:

A sustain pedal is like an on/off switch used to hold notes, while an expression pedal is used to control variable parameters.

https://geekmusician.com/using-sustain-pedal-as-expression-pedal/

https://missionengineering.com/understanding-expression-pedals/

The one im trying to make work, yes its only a straight forward sustain pedal.

my challenge now is .... So, i need to add a MIDI CC into the PRV (and i dont have a CLUE as how to do that, or test) OR ...Replace the defult setting of EXP OR FOOTSWITCH in the midi archive to sustain (which currently reads "HOLD"

"Sustain is MIDI CC64, so you need to add the event to the control lane( at the bottom of the pvr), and then draw the sustains (64-127 for Sustain, 0-63 for no sustain)

On 11/17/2022 at 3:10 AM, abacab said:

The jack on the Tone Port is the question, and the spec for it that states "expression". The pic of the pedal is a regular sustain pedal.

So apparently the Tone Port only supports expression pedals input, rather than sustain pedals.

The one im trying to make work, yes its only a straight forward sustain pedal.

my challenge now is .... So, i need to add a MIDI CC into the PRV (and i dont have a CLUE as how to do that, or test) OR ...Replace the defult setting of EXP OR FOOTSWITCH in the midi archive to sustain (which currently reads "HOLD"

"Sustain is MIDI CC64, so you need to add the event to the control lane( at the bottom of the pvr), and then draw the sustains (64-127 for Sustain, 0-63 for no sustain)

On 11/17/2022 at 3:10 AM, abacab said:

The jack on the Tone Port is the question, and the spec for it that states "expression". The pic of the pedal is a regular sustain pedal.

So apparently the Tone Port only supports expression pedals input, rather than sustain pedals.

Yea this would seem to be the case (the support), and yes its only a straight forward sustain pedal.

my challenge now is .... So, i need to add a MIDI CC into the PRV (and i dont have a CLUE as how to do that, or test) OR ...Replace the defult setting of EXP OR FOOTSWITCH in the midi archive to sustain (which currently reads "HOLD"

"Sustain is MIDI CC64, so you need to add the event to the control lane( at the bottom of the pvr), and then draw the sustains (64-127 for Sustain, 0-63 for no sustain) 

Regards

Nic

On 11/16/2022 at 8:08 PM, 57Gregy said:

Welcome to the forum.
The Toneport is pretty old. Did you find the correct drivers at the Line 6 web site?
I saw this at their Legacy Products page: "1/4-inch expression pedal jack (software-assignable for controlling GearBox wah, volume or sending MIDI to recording programs)".  I don't know if it can be used as a sustain pedal input.
Have you gotten it to work at all with Cakewalk by Bandlab (CbB)?
 

Hey Gregy

yea, being in south africa, your trash is our treasure !

yea everything works fine with the line 6 and cakewalk

but my sustain pedal is my only issue !

so this one guy (Blindeddie) said "Sustain is MIDI CC64, so you need to add the event to the control lane( at the bottom of the pvr), and then draw the sustains (64-127 for Sustain, 0-63 for no sustain) 

So, i need to add a MIDI CC into the PRV (and i dont have a CLUE as how to do that, or test)

regards

nic

Hi All

My Name is Nic and I'm new to all this!

Obviously I have to Google most of the acronyms (lol) so if you have an answer please keep ot as simple as possible (laymans)

OK so this is my setup....(which took 2 weeks to setup😢😭🤣)

1) Midi keyboard (toneport kb37 from line 6)made in USA!!! 

2) Sustain pedal (Tec*Nics ) bought from music shop and made in China!

3) Laptop Core i5 , windows 10 , Cakewalk from bandlab (latest version).

So I've setup everything mentioned above and all works satisfactory (so far)

My Problem is ...

I plugged my sustain pedal into the pedal port of the Kb37 , but it isn't registering to sustain the notes played ! 

If you know how to remedy this please help out! 🙏 

You can email me directly if you like ....  onlyhvac@gmail.com