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Joe_Southern

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  1. I was kind of joking about the vocals - but they do need help ha ha. It's more of an overall concept question. Thanks for the thoughtful comments. I've done tons of programming in the past (and current) and can see how the actual processing of the DAW - it would be almost impossible to be exactly same. Just as two photo programs would not convert the same .bmp file to a .jpg file exactly the same. Close? Probably. Noticeable difference? Probably not. There isn't a standard on how to mix those signals together as far as I know. So, there would be some difference in the approaches. I guess I wondered if someone had tested that. It really could be dramatic over all the various DAW's on the market. But I was more focused just on the Pro Tools vs Cakewalk. The tests Startship Krupa gave on the Sine wave testing. That's exactly what I was curious about. But then also, is there a subjective difference.
  2. I've used Cakewalk/Sonar since the beginning of time. Instruments were made of dinosaur bones when I first started. It's been perfect for me through the years and still is, but I have been thinking about a question. Suppose for simplicity, I have several stems - guitar, vocals, bass, drums, etc. Now, if I bring those into cakewalk and pro tools and then in theory, just say I mixed them the same - same plug in's etc at same settings. My question is that when those are mixed by the algorithm in the programs themself, is there a noticeable difference in how each program processes the files? Do the mixes end up about the same? I see lots of things about the operation of the two programs, but never anything kind of breaking it down like in my example. Has anyone done this to give some insight? I wonder because my vocals sound so crappy (:
  3. It goes from -18db to -39db on the duplicated track. So, in this case it's not a slight drop. I guess it seems that duplicating a track should give an exact copy. I tried the drag-copy, but I had to first copy the track via duplicate track as I have effects on it. Then, deleted the clips and dragged the ones from the original down. Same result. So something in the track duplication process? Hardware outputs remained the same. Wave forms seem identical - it's when it's played is the issue. I tried a different track set up with same effects and it duplicated fine or close enough that I didn't notice a difference. So, must be related to this particular track. My concern is that if I just work around here I'll run into a similar issue later with a different track.
  4. Did you figure out the issue here? I have the same issue - just duplicating a particular track the volume is 'substantially' different. It often works fine with slight volume variations, which I'd think since it's a duplicate they'd be the same. I did this post about it -
  5. I have most recent CW version. I started out with Sonar 100 years ago (: I have multiple tracks with short Guitar parts. They each have 3 effects - IK Amplitube 5, sonitus compressor( used as a limiter) and Sonitus gate. Most tracks have these adjusted slightly differently. Because I have multiple tracks set up like that it started to affect the performance, I'd take a track - duplicate it (so my original track is left pure). I then apply the effects and have them deleted from my copy. I then archive (A) my original track. It's worked fine, or seems to, until..... one track won't work. It comes across at a substantially lower volume. I believe now It's something in the duplication process. Immediately after the duplicate track - if I solo both of them - the original is higher volume than the copy. In fact I can't really get the copy's volume to match the original. I've duplicated the track several times and it's the same result. At first, I had thought it was something in the apply effects, but as I said, it's something in the duplication process. I just have it duplicate, including events, not linked to original. Nothing special. I've gone into each VST on the original and duplicate track and the settings are the same - volumes set the same. It's weird. I've noticed too after closer examination that my other tracks I duplicated have 'slight' volume variations. This one track though constantly has a much lower volume. I'd appreciate any suggestions. I've also tried bouncing to a track - the duplicate and it didn't work. I did bounce the original and while the sine wave is lower - volume seems similar. Any ideas as to why a duplicated track doesn't sound like the original?
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