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  1. Ouch Bayou... We were fukin ignorant back then. My road to partial deafness was in the late 60's, early 70's. Young stud immortal, felt the hearing going down slowly from a successful three piece 120 plus db acid band. Back then you didn't have to have any talent to get the chicks and the paycheck. You just had to be loud. We got lots of jobs but the employer always asking us to turn it don't so the paint don't peal off the wall. Thought I could survive to the distant ripe old age of 40 without consequences. Started to use on occasion ear protection when the inner voice said to get real. Toilet paper soaked in water did the job. One night, couldn't get to the bathroom in time to grab the toilet paper. The show went on and nuked everyone to the gills. Good performance but after the gig, I could not hear out of my left ear. 50 years of damage happened in one night. Realized also that hearing was associated with another positional sense, that half of your head was still there. Ran around for several days wanting to escape from my damaged body till I just learned to live with the loss. Advice for the tender young pups out there. Protect your hearing. Once you lose it, it ain't coming back in this life. John
  2. Kurre, Some sideways off the wall advice for you my friend. You done got it right that even the green and blue LED’s can cause you sleeplessness. As much as possible, shut the crap down before sleeping. Exposure to a computer screen even an hour before sleeping will fork things up badly. If you got to keep the electronics on at night, then wear an opaque eye cover when going to sleep. Analyze and correct light leaks coming thru windows as well. All other kinds of advices too long for here are available to you. Google “sleep hygiene” and there are some good thoughts. Elegant, mysterious connection with light in the natural environment (which we don’t got no more) gives us cues about when to wake and when to sleep. Complex pathway in the brain regulates the production or not production of natural sleep hormones cranked out by the pineal gland at the bottom of the brain. Higher energy light frequencies toward the blue spectrum circle around in the brain on an insane beautiful race course to inhibit production of the body’s natural hormonal sleep aid. Brain says, time to wake up and enjoy the new day. Thus when we ravage ourselves to the last minute before time to sleep, concentrating 5 inches from the computer screen, wonder why we cannot attain rest. There are other factors imposed on modern man, tech savvy life in the fast lane but we pay price. Other things I can advise if you want or need. Kicking the circadian sleep cycle back to the 24 hour interval is important if you are living in a more northern gloomy morning climate. Older guy, say 50 years on, another set of problems but can be fixed hopefully. Lemme know. Hey, this is the Coffee House. Anything goes last time I checked. Really wishing you sweet dreams. John
  3. John K

    wub

    Thank you Leadfoot. Appreciate that. Antler, yes was meaning the delay options that started with 1903. For space outs like me, I let the days go by and forget. Like downloading a 30 day trial of something and not getting back to it until it has expired. The advantage of WUB beyond one knob simplicity is that the updates are put on hold indefinitely until you decide to go through them and install what is safe.
  4. John K

    wub

    Hi Guys, Out of the trenches after a miserable win 10 update to four computers. Current mid November update for the 1903 version. One computer had the magnifier turned on, and couldn't access anything beneath it with the mouse after it eventually restarted. Laptop had the keyboard toasted, unfortunately not an isolated problem. Finally found a website with options for the meltdown, though an idiotic suggestion that if your keyboard doesn't respond, type in such and such into the search field. About as bad as my internet provider who says that if your internet is down, go to this site and start troubleshooting. Finally got the problems fixed and don't know whether it is moral to raise the middle finger to Microsoft, but things were working as fine as could be expected before the "upgrade" Point of all this crap is that win 10 makes it very difficult to stop the automatic updates. You can of course go in and delay updates. There are more obscure command line options to stop the intrusion. Can dig into the services menu to stop the invasion (hopefully) but found the updates magically turned on again if you take this route. Most of you probably already know about this. Not preaching to the choir, so this for those that may not be aware and could benefit... Excellent freeware update manager, as in turn the damn thing off until I want it on again and can choose. Program is WUB. Executable file is a simple toggle, off and on that completely blocks automatic updates and intrusion when you least need it or have no idea what will be left after watching the hourglass spin for an hour or more. https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-5/ Good program that should be in the toolbox. John
  5. John K

    Cheez Machine Pro

    Hey Guys, Elegant, limited, cheezy, hardcore update to the venerable and ancient Cheeze Machine. Some may have used Cheeze Machine or the 2getheraudio free upgrade to Cheeze Machine 2. Ain't free no more for the new Pro version. Even worse, online activation for 3 machines. Support said they will add more with a support ticket. Demo doesn't save changes, but the synth begs for tweaks and ability to save presets not in the demo. Can authorize for 10 dollars. Why I blew the big buks. Not going to blow Omnisphere out of the waters, but way worth auditioning the demo. For a cheap thrill, lot of potential and gets a five star thumbs up in my book. https://www.2getheraudio.com/instruments/cheeze-machine-pro/ Cheers, John late edit... for my use, there is something missing. This has to do with a global cent tuning adjustment. Can do semitones and can detune the oscillators against each other, but no global cent adjustment unless you are using Reaper to compensate. Got a ticket/ request in...
  6. Agreed... Maybe I'm not life in the modern fast lane enough to go with the new wave of nothing in your hands to show for a purchase. Permanent unlock would be a good thing for the legacy stuff. Otherwise in the progression of things, the new kids are getting slowly imprinted on the subscription model as normal. Wave of the future. Don't know how many of you remember when you bought a software, there was a hard copy and a simple serial number activation. For what it may or may not be worth, fired up Sonar Home Studio free and tried to online activate it. Only as of this day, the old Cakewalk server blasted thru the activation process, checked for updates and activated the product. Still alive and well. Can only trust that they are honest that when the second coming is about to take the servers down, Cake in whatever form will issue a permanent unlock for legacy software. Also appreciate as Noel said that forward and backward thinking were incorporated into the Cake line so that an ancient project is patent in a new version as much as tech advance and change allow. Hope all are well, safe, happy, healthy, secure, at peace, and all that other swami guru new age stuff. John
  7. Like Noel, Craig, Michael, Brian said...
  8. Hey John, Got friends still working on win XP and ancient 32 bit plugs but cranking out incredible sounds. Rationale is it works so why break it. And there is a certain level of wisdom in this. Idea is that if inspiration and native hard on rush of creativity is in working order, there ain't nothing that an arsenal of plugs or increased efficiency on paper numbers for the Focusrite can help with. Look at what the ancient rock n' roll masters had to deal with and what they did before we came onto the scene with technology options that were not even in their dreams. Might create an image or restore point first, and then install the thing and see if this leads to the Holy Grail or maybe a bit better digital life. Can always reverse the decision if it don't work. In general, I try to update when a new driver version is available, but have been sent to the brimstone pit when the latest and greatest have brought my local system down. Focusrite 1818 user something here as well. Works solid and fills the local needs. Will probably update if they got something new, but not counting on the update to open the creative clouds of glory like they all claim. Have done the upgrades on firmware, and likely a good thing over time. Problem is that I see a GUI change, but nothing that has the slightest perk in stability or speed or increase in my creativity. Too dense here to read the small print while others are actually creating a sound with what they got. One opinion, grab the latest update. Other opinion, if it is working toward your needs, why fork with it for now until something breaks with a windows update. John
  9. Guys, Wanted to share a perspective on this that may not mean shit to a tree, since I ain’t got a clue if it really works or not. Maybe it does. I’m a skeptic but without all the facts, which makes for a deeper level of ignorance if I’m missing the fine points. Just what I have seen in application. Bottom line is IMHO, the whole thing is a bunch of elephant kaka. You guys may know different. Over the past year I’ve worked with a couple churches wanting to return to Christian spiritual healing through music and revive forbidden tonal scales that conspiracy theories have tried to squash, lest we ascend with the angels and get higher than the priests. My input cold and clinical, don’t believe in any of this, but have worked giving them the technology to tune to whatever they think will get them saved. First project was to cure all diseases mental, physical, spiritual with the original Solfegio scales. This became a practical application nightmare having to retune to the microscales to get to ancient resonances, although the congregation healed the sick and raised the dead, lame walked, incurable cancers healed, the blind now with sight, etc, etc. Took them more time to retune than to play the song so they needed a more streamlined approach to get the miracles. Too much of a task to retune to the gregorian standard, so the central church migrated to a global 432 tuning, where everything does supernatural stuff and you don’t have to worry about what key you are playing in, big irritating problem with the Solfeggios. Way more convenient and can get the same miracles with less work. Wealth of conspiracy theories supported 432. Mozart and Hayden protesting the government decree to retune orchestras to the satanic 440 reference. Hitler and his top generals shifting to 440 to cause destruction of the mind and chaos so the masses were weakened and more easily subjugated. So we did the less labor intensive shift to 432 tuning, and the miracles instantly flowed like water. I did an initial retuning of the main church’s Yamaha to as close cent tuning to 432 as possible. Healings and revelations were immediate if tuned to 432. They quickly abandoned the old Gregorian scales for a less labor intensive path to higher realms. The church became a pilgrimage site thanks to me, like taking holy water from a sacred fountain. Churches or individuals were welcomed to tune their instruments to the holy grail and take it back to their congregation. It worked and miracles flowed like water for anyone or any congregation who tuned to the sacred 432 reference. They did conferences about temperature shifts, effect on tuning and dwell times in specific temperatures so as to take the sacred tuning back to the church in original purity. One small problem however. The original Yamaha had a battery backup RAM to keep the settings I put in for them. Evidently they had no batteries or dead batteries so could not store the settings after the power was turned off for the first time. The holy grail keyboard just defaulted back to 440, so all the blessed souls were only tuning to 440 under the illusion that they were doing 432. I had to bring it up to the powers that be, and they are not happy. They are trying to come out with some damage control or keep it secret. One option to replace the batteries and have me reprogram the thing. Keep the past under the rug. Let the miracles continue. So I’m thinking, maybe the power of suggestion. Possibly more powerful than the tuning? Open to other observations. John
  10. Funny clip if it weren't about for real. Then there is this... More geared to my crude level of existence... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQA_XaPpl84 Love you all, John
  11. Hey Voyager, Got a half educated answer for you at the expense of getting me banned even more as a lunatic. But life is short so let it roll. Hey, Jyotishvarii, where the hell are you. You got to take some of the heat off me, and I burned the last pot of Ramen because you didn’t give any of us carbon forms a better recipe. Anyway… Mechanism of levitation as I said is a competing format. From the last Big Bang out of infinite cycles, we are connected to everything physical as we exploded farther apart in this current episode. Gets truncated by the 1/r2 law so the drag from Alpha Centuri trying to rip us off the surface of the planet is way less than mother Earth. The connection was made far before we were born or before any life could exist. We take up the clay when tossed into the world that has cooled down and have already secured the gravitational interface. From a point size about as math as a point can be until more current living room is established where we are in the expansion. Point of the bang is where we made our link with everything no matter how far away it is now. One physics prof said, you jump up and down, the stars tremble. Physics geeks who know way more than me about this may add in. The concept of exchange particles. Everything trying to get back to Origin even if still in the pre evolved inanimate state. Example recognized by current physics is the exchange particle in the inanimate revolt. Electron fields emanate virtual and more subtle photon fields that are expressed about in the radius of the electron field and reabsorbed if they cannot connect with something to give the subtle field temporary existence in space and time. Same only way more subtle with gravitational particles that emanate and fall back into photons (luminous factor as recognized by the ancient heathens). If the gravitational particle flow does what is normal, there is an exchange between the two interacting masses. In this case, our physical load and the earth below. Thus we are tethered to what we are interacting with. Does not have to be alive. A rock stays on the ground by these exchange laws and interactions. The process of real yoga is a paranormal voyage from death to Enlightenment. In the ascent, the second physical transduction structure shares the same particulate structure and bandwidth as life energy. All we eat, all we breathe, all we metabolize is aimed at creating a conduit of connection to the field of life energy that is already there. In the valid introspective process, Knowledge of the matrix that transcends the death experience requires tremendous life energy, unknown to the current ape expression by virtue of normal birth and everyday experience. It is there in potential, but sadly not activated in our clueless 3 score and 10 life span, although everything around us is a signal to try and get free. Such a tragedy. No one needs to die. Increase in life energy (pranah) tries to get us locked into where we need to be to cognize the reality of inner space. Increased interference in the adjacent field causes distortion with competing gravitation particulates (life energy or gravity in the battle). Distortion from packed real estate bends the connection to the parent body and weird things happen, like losing contact with what we are supposed to be glued to since gravitational fields are getting mangled and misdirected. The actual experience is terrifying and possibly deadly. You said you dived into the Essene writings and understood book 4. Imagine if the two streams went ballistic out of control and flew you up to the ceiling about to drop onto a concrete floor to your death.. It is only my experience opposed to the floaty blissful guys lifting off in some spiritual trance, everything happy and controlled. Nothing like that for me. My experience only, like being sucked up in an uncontrolled whirlwind. Avalanche of Light and Sound. The lift off is way more secure than the ebb of the threshold for gravity free existence.. The lift off is terrifying but gradual. You feel it coming. The energetics ebb and flow not in a constant, so you fall below the threshold for lift off. Loss of the faculty is all or none, so you get dropped off from wherever you were at. My worst incident was after trying to go to sleep and insane roar of energy started. I would lift off spinning with no control, lose the threshold and fall like a rock. Fortunately, a big mattress under me. The oak frame of the bed groaned under the weight of me continually falling on it from about a foot above. Biggest fear at the time was me hovering over the edge and being dropped onto the floor. Can say the photo documentation shows a wind on loss of gravity. This much is true. My pajamas and hair were being violently blown around, fluttering. In the spinning was able to see a box of Kleenex next to the bed and there was no disturbance. The wind was only local to me. Levitation, or lightness of body is one of 8 major paranormal advancements on the path. Will happen to you as well at some inconvenient time. May it be more gentle with you. Movie trivia, the opposite reaction is also in the works, but I have no commerce with this yet. “Laghima” or the ability to become heavier than anything. Deals with a purposeful concentration of the gravity field onto what is the parent body attached to. Gravitation warped artificially to the max. Some may remember the old original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles flic. One of the turtles was an ex Acharya. Don’t agree with his display, but got him the part. He was a small guy just over 100 pounds. He did have some good karate skills. The tryouts for the part had him paired up against several other heavy weight contenders. He did the Laghima thing and challenged the other 6 contestants to lift his 100 pound body off the floor. They could not move him and the producers were slobbering on themselves in excitement. He got the role but I wonder about the karma of using his hard earned ability for secular gain. As much as I know about any of this and hope it doesn’t happen again for awhile. John
  12. Voyager, Take this for what you will, but yeah, forcefully levitated several times, and it was not a lot of fun, dangerous roller coaster ride out of control. Have never bent a spoon and have no drive to do so. Have no ability yet to bend anything. Can I levitate now to show proof. No, can’t. I ain’t where Jesus was able to control the faculty at will to walk on water. No laws of physics are broken regarding levitation. Something we all possess but buried deep and has to be encountered and dealt with at some point in our evolution. Think I had discussed our life energy envelope, second physical body. This structure shares the same particulate arena as gravitation, so understand this as competing fields. In the energetic depths of valid introspection, the pranic body increases wattage beyond the gravitation exchange particle norm and scrambles the physical exchange flow between dense structure and what it is interacting with. In our case, planet earth predominantly. We lose contact and float off. You may google articles and testimonies, but the actual experience is not so clean. Regarding the TM 5000 dollar levitation class, this is as fake as it gets. Only not fake thing is the debt on your credit card. Apologies to any of you doing the Transcendental Meditation process, but got to call it for what it is. Pure bull shit rip off. You don’t have to train to levitate nor would you ever want to. Only a distraction on the path. It will happen when it is supposed to happen at which point you will have to deal with it for better or worse. Take it as a positive sign that you are progressing. Ignore it and move on. John
  13. Hey Voyager, Yeah, got some stuff on the dimension things that are cool and can direct you to specific articles, but you (we) got a greater problem right now, as in what you are going through. And accept all blame for the torture you are experiencing. It actually gives me joy that you are being trashed so soon (duck and run…). When you go up in a firestorm of glory, we can look back and see if it was worth it. For reference, I did walk in your shoes up to the brink of insanity until knowledge exploded in a blaze. A state of virgin purity, energy and clarity, the ultimate gem hidden and unknown that we all possess in potential. I am passing the torch to you to discover your source and get to Eternity while there is still life breath in you. Can't pull this off too late when they got you tossed into the cremation pit as a failed experiment. Realize that in old times, an aspirant to Knowledge was some precocious kid in his teens. If he/she was made of the right stuff, was accepted for training and began the first 40 years of the journey. First 40 years was a cleansing and attitude adjustment trial. Active social service, vegetarian state, hard observances to get ready for the ride ahead. If the aspirant survived 40 years of really hard prep work, then the next several years were devoted to the “asanas”, the stretching exercises that are hit and miss in the spandex circuit and in ignorance called yoga. These exercises were individualized to balance secretions from the endocrine glands responsible for emotional and cognitive response so that the mind could achieve a state of semi equipoise to face the hard task of what was coming next. Then the good stuff, science of introspection to seek our point of creation. The old heathens took off like a bat out of hell after decades of preparation. Even then there were still struggles and difficulties. Times have changed. I can’t demand someone to do aggressive homework for 50 years before the key to sanctuary is given. This day and age, the full blast massacre is given in the raw if the instructor feels that there is a chance of the seeker surviving the experience. Without the decades of prep however, the transformation toward liberation is severely traumatic. Don’t have to explain this to you. What brought you here is what the ancient heathens called “Samvit Shakti”, means a sudden realization to the state of things, realization in pain that you are dead meat headed toward death and no one around you has an answer or a clue. This energetic is born of pain and only blessed by constant questioning and trials to understand the nature of life from an ancient past. Means the pain is righteously deserved as an entry point. Dues you have paid while your other co wanderers are content to have a thumb up their ass and ponder the depths of a Seinfeld TV rerun on the way out to death. When the student is ready, the teacher will arise. If not ready, you can travel the planet in search and will return empty. If ready, the Teacher will travel the planet to find you. You have been found. So what you are facing is seen in retrospect as four stages of struggle. I have no knowledge of the fourth but trying my best to extract myself from the deep claws of ignorance. Have been bounced around for a wild ride with the first three. Initially, the introspective process is met with every difficulty that the universe can throw at you. You seek something good but are getting smashed in the teeth and tortured into the dirt in the process of rebirth. The drive to continue in the face of not nice experiences is an arc of this energy. Mind and body are being torn apart and mangled, but some cause makes you drive on. After a couple years of torture, there is a shift in this dynamic. Not a new force, but if you will, a higher octave of the same masochistic drive that has destroyed everything in your life but kept you coming back for more. Ancient heathens called the transmutation “hladinii”. Closest meaning is “bliss”. You sit down to do the disciplined process and realize that something way cool is happening. Does not sustain for awhile, like you wake up one day and in stage two forever. Backslides you will experience, but something is reorganizing as you develop the skills of the introspective trance states. It is here where growth becomes exponential. Understanding, grace, bliss, absorption into the causal matrix reveals what all the saints and sages have tried to tell us. We become the Truth of all the scriptures and philosophies the world has given to us. Your life will carry this beautiful perfume through every second of your waking state. It is here up the line, 20 years or so of a valid yoga path. The danger returns in exquisite seduction. Holy heathens called the third stage of yoga, “Ek Indria”. This translates strangely as “One Organ”. Way too complex to even scratch the surface of this, but one organ refers to harnessing a surrounding glandular secretion or unlocking the gene brake on a chemical associated with a psychic center under latency. A field, a plexus surrounding a mundane glandular center, like the pancreas, thyroid in the throat, prostate, pituitary or pineal axis. Others. Manifestation is one of the numerous “siddhis” or occult powers when the chemicals start to kick in. Be it subjective, telepathies extended mental abilities, clairvoyancies of different types. Be it objective, levitation, telekinetic moving of, or changing structural integrities. Radical cool experience, ability. Wait til I show the dudes at the party this. I’m going to get so many girls when they see me levitate or bend a spoon. This is the most seductive third phase of yoga, because the paranormal stuff starts to happen before the individual ego has been bleached clean. Karma stuff, we got ourselves into the painful condition we are experiencing because of normal dirt level activities. Actions perpetrated from a more subtle field of intent have a more far reaching payback. They used to say that you can travel thru India, stop at a village in the outback. There will be a yogi there that can perform a miracle for you for a few rupees fee. You will be mind blown and inspired. Travel around for several month, come back to the same village and you can still pay a few rupees to have the local mystic perform a miracle for you, but it will not be the same guy. Retribution has taken out a fallen angel who got blinded and screwed up a chance to get free. When the paranormal stuff starts to happen, take this as a sign that you are progressing, but throw them away because it is not your goal. Forth stage, I have no clue about, but is said to be personal merger into Infinity. Salvation, Samadhi, Nirvana by any other name. End of the journey. Goal achieved. Purity required way beyond where I am at, so still struggling.
  14. Thanks guys. Voyager, could you check something. Electronic Edition is the definitive peak, end point of any education available to carbon infests in the three worlds. The disc is defective in the book on plants and animals. I had to get the hard copy to supplement since only a portion of one discourse was retrievable from the entire book. They are refining as fast as new translations are available and fixing the references. Can you bring this document up? Karma and ownership then… Said that an inpossible probability event decimates a portion of physical substance, and this becomes a small 2D segment of objectified mind in the new life form. Something seems to have disappeared that can’t be accounted for with weights and measurements. The small blip outside space takes on a different property than a purely inanimate form. Inanimate objects, same as in living structures have to incur discreet envelopes of everything from Origin down the scale of crudity to the focus of the physical structure in order to exist, but the living objectified mind creates an interior seeking stress not present in that which has not life. In even higher evolved plants and animals, this objective clay takes on a larger two dimensional predominance and constitutes what molds into the movie screen of our sense data streaming in from space. The ancient heathens called the crudest stratum of mind the “Kamamaya kos’a” or “desire body” since it is intimate contact to both receive sense data from space and transmit motor response back to the physical capsule. In the two vibratory structures of mind, the condensive “operative principle” (Prakr’ti) maintains a straightforward stranglehold on anything physical non living. Vibratory crudity, once true vibration is established is impressed further in the process by creating energy waves that are of a shorter wavelength and higher amplitude. The Kamamaya kos’a of a living entity is continually fighting the system trying to regain subtlety, pushing back wavelengths to a state of lower frequency and lower amplitude. Trying to flat line anything vibrating so there is no distortion in the cosmos. Think of struggling to paddle upstream against a current. Vibration of things and substance does not exist deeper than “Manomaya kos’a” which we experience a glimpse of when we dream. Non vibrational content of our ancient record requiring an emerging faculty to be aware of the activity and deep subtlety is why we black out in deep sleep. We remember nothing of the vast arena of our being and the intense work going on to get us ready for the next day’s waking assault. In that state of vacuity, three levels of unconscious mind are active with central consciousness witnessing the work being done. Once life is ignited, the only mode of forward impetus initially is physical clash. The colloid floating in a sea somewhere being banged by the waves, heat of a sun, freeze of a night, effort to absorb life giving liquid methane. The objectified mind grows in expanse and receptive power by physical sensation. Problem is that there is no intelligence associated with the microbe. No feeling of “I”. It is here where the already established cosmic mentation fills in for awhile to manage the missing components. The fledgling is guided entirely by what we recognize as instinct. Clash upon clash and the physical and objectified mental structure eclipses itself and a personal repository of experience is enabled in a most primitive form. Manomaya kos’a of the old yogis. In humans, this structure is quite developed and contains the memory and categorization of every experience we have had in this life. Under the direction of more subtle portions of mind later evolved, this layer has the ability to organize and connect experiences. It is the basis of our rational thought. It contains for instance the memory of every cup we drank out of. Because of the staging power, we can pick up a cup we have never seen and drink from it without having to learn the process from start. Under hypnosis, a secondary agent causes the crude vibes of the conscious Kamamaya kos’a to flat line for a short time. Cognition can then recognize the contents of the more subtle container and the person can tell who they sat next to in third grade and what they were wearing or had for lunch whereas the physical chemical traces of "cerebral memory" are long washed out. Unfortunately a whole other area of diatribe best left to blow in the wind. For the evolving entity on the return path, there are now two compartments of mind that are owned although without sense of thought or existence. Instinct still running survival choices. If you were to ask, how are you, there would be nothing inside to answer yet. Individual ownership of “karma” is not possible although things are starting to get together to eventually take responsibility for choices and actions. Taking a break. John
  15. Okay, where wuz we…Karma and ownership… Craig, if you do ever find a good Google search explanation for karma, let me know. I have never found one. And thanks guys, I'm only in this for the thread count anyway. Let it roll. Best understood with help of analogies where needed. Unfortunately some long groundwork required that only a true heathen could love. There was discussion about involution (Sainc’ara) and evolution (Pratisainc’ara). Involution begins with pure consciousness and ends with a rock. Pre 3D space mental projection requires 5 bands of degradation before we even hit space itself. Once space collapses over the brink, there are 5 more levels of deterioration to get to the rock. At the interface, the crudest part of mind collapses into a 3D particulate structure that is the most refined essence of the physical universe. The spatial layers are a bit hard to understand because their existence is part pure physics and part psychology and perception. These “fundamental factors” (tattvas) deal with sensory perception. Atoms and subatomic particulate fields will exist in the absence of any human to witness them, but the act of our witnesship separates off 5 envelopes to deal with the transfer of sense data from the external environment to mind. Other life forms may have more or less of these partitions as they see the world in different ways and thus less or more impact on the nature of what is. For a solid particle to exist, there has to be an intact structure on all 10 gradients for the particle to stabilize in space. Disrupt anything more interior would result in chaos. We had talked about physical disruption (jad’asphota), concept of which is necessary for any understanding about karma. Everything in the universe around us is vibrational. Outside space, the ectoplasmic mental structures of the layer in contact with space (Kamamaya kos’a), and the more interior Manomaya kos’a, repository and book keeper of an entire life’s experience, are two dimensional. Much like when we go to a movie and see the semblance of 3D space on a flat 2D screen. Condensative pressure (Prakr’ti) on Kamamaya kos’a over a cosmic domain causes the collapse of the stressed 2D configuration into a ball having actual length, width, and depth. Result is the “etheron”, particle of space. We have no equivalent term in science for a few hundred years yet. Once 3D over the brink transmutation is achieved, the universe slams the doors shut almost completely on any regression back into mind with potential loss of balanced interior seeking vectors. (See Jyotishvarii’s discussion on this. The girl rocks.) All kinds of hell can break lose in the universe. Space is immune to the jad’asphota effect since it is backed up against the wall and nowhere to go. Anything more established, gravitation down in more dense and organized particulate frelds is continually struggling to get free from the condensed state and does succeed for awhile in the conflict until being grabbed again with the effort to create rocks. Example of God’s fuk up not being able to keep things in order, but you got to give Her an A for effort. Not many of us could pull this off. We discussed that the ignition of primordial life is a nearly infinite impossibility, but with an infinite number of karmas at the inanimate level, the key to escape from 3D space is bound to happen. And it does. Rarely, but here and there out in the universe it does. A colloidal particle has gotten through the gates and is now alive. The event pulverizes a smallest element of physical matter back over the brink of space to outside space and unit mind is created as a vehicle for the long long road ahead. The dynamics of all supporting matrices inside and outside space are critically altered once life begins. Backlash, reactive momentum digs into the heart of the subtle universe. Take a more highly evolved life form that has been around the block a few times, like a bacteria. Genetic and metabolic machinery cranking away, throwing the middle finger at involutionary force that says, you shall be a rock. Bacteria says, fork you, I’m on my way back home. Taking a break, but tried to lay some groundwork. Should be able to make the argument as to what happens in the progression toward karmic ownership. Why a rock gets off free but a human does not. Unfortunately, the dreaded subject of reincarnation should come into this. We did this for some insane reason on the old forum and it was met with, can we say less than love and respect. Don’t want to create that cesspool of reaction and anger again, so any explanation is crippled. I’ll partially tie this together without mentioning the “R” word, and I don’t mean Reaper DAW. John
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