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  1. 7 hours ago, sjoens said:

    Personally not really into presets as each instance is usually custom tailored.

    I get that. Just still weird for there to be none . So weird that they don't even have the old ones. I know the old ones they released shortly after x1 don't load consistently in later versions, but you would think someone could at the very least alter those to load . for beginners it was a good starting point

  2. *I placed under "Deals" because there is a free version*

     

    The Fairlight aspect of Davinci is powerful. I own paid version for video work( worth the upgrade), but rarely use audio part beyond the basics because of workflow.  I do get asked about free DAW alternatives. I usually recommend Cakewalk for Windows users, but I know Mac and Linux users too. Every now and then Fairlight gets mentioned  and I am hesitant to recommend despite some great features ( the vocal isolation is impressive being one example)

    Have any of you actually attempted to use Fairlight as a DAW?  I can already say that some of the best features are not in free version but third party plugins make up for that.  I'm sure I would like it a lot better if I had the $5000 dollar control unit🤣

     

  3. 9 hours ago, Carl Ewing said:

    First, it's not AI. It's just data processing. And very dumb / unsophisticated data processing at that. These are human programmed algorithms that don't self learn and have to be told what to do. AI is a bullshit corporate term to make people buy stuff and make stocks go up because people are gullible and like Terminator movies.

    "One shots" - as in a cymbal crash? Or one shots as in a 10 second vocal hook? One shots can mean anything. Define examples.

    If an "AI"  algorithm is flagging stuff that would be difficult to copyright in and of itself (i.e. a relatively generic drum one shot) then the algorithm is broken and should be tossed in the trash. And maybe that's the case, but I have a hard time believing that multiple artists are getting flagged for using something other than unedited melodic or rhythmic sounds.

    Although - considering the loop licenses, that should still be fine as long as the loops are incorporated into a larger piece of work. And if those are still getting flagged then yes, that's a huge problem, and entirely the fault of these platforms (i.e. Youtube), since the user has the legal right to use them and should not lose ad revenue because of Youtube's (or adsense or adrev, etc.) crappy algorithm.

    However - this seems like a solvable problem, by having these algorithms "learn" the vast database of sample libraries (updated regularly), and exclude all those samples from content flagging.

    Having said all that - you've totally changed my mind (and watched a couple Youtube videos on the subject) - this does seem like a major problem. I agree. I was wrong. This needs to be fixed.

    I hope you didn't get the impression I was arguing about it. More like food for thought. I wasn't even trying to get you to change your mind. Just things to consider.  I didn't see this as a right or wrong issue. I also apologize for being lazy in my wording. "AI" is not so much the problem as the abuse of it is. Youtube's reporting system is broken and people are using ai to identify songs they used same(licensed) sample for .  I agree a lot of these problems are solvable.  One way to fix some of these issues is for companies that sell sample packs to do a better job of making sure companies are not simply processing same samples and reselling them.  I'm sure most of us have countless copies of the same drum samples with slightly different processing and renamed.

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    1 hour ago, El Diablo said:

    The only issue I have with iZotope that it does require two programs /plugins to do the work of one plugin.  I also wish Sonible didn't do the same thing with true balance and true level.  It makes more sense that the two plugins should actually be a single plugin.

    I've heard about Mcompare, but I thought look hard into it.  I've not heard how low they sale it for.

    I think I'm going to grab the first one that goes on sell.  I've heard Metric A/B can get as low as $15, but I'm unsure about Reference 2.

    Currently, none of the referencing type plugins are on any great sale right now, or I missed it.

    The "two programs" thing is not as bad as it sounds because one is simply a means of grabbing actual songs to reference, something you would have to do anyway.  With traditional route you are limited to songs you actually own( for those of us doing things legally), but audiolens expands selection.  Of course this only is a "bargain" if you obtained audiolens for free.

  5. I will never fume over Melda prices. Even the missteps offer more overall value than most. The amount of control in the turbo versions is insane. I think someone smarter than me could get them to null with just about any plugin on the market.

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  6. 53 minutes ago, husker said:

    I have a foolproof method for not getting flagged.   I just never actually record anything, finish a song, and certainly don't release what little I actually accomplish. 

    Brilliant. Truth be told, it's a non-issue for most people. 

  7. I also want to correct a possible mistake. I don't think it was Venus Theory that got falsely flagged. I think I mentioned him because he discussed the issue in a video. The case I am thinking of was another streamer. I will post if i remember

  8. Again to be clear, I am very pro sampling. For the all the years I have been on this forum, I have spoken against those who dismiss sampling as uncreative looping.  I am simply dispelling the myth that there is some production secret or skill level that makes you immune to this issue.  I think the very concept that there are ways to identify a sample so mangles that creator couldn't identify is a reminder that this is about greed more than intellectual property.   Also, your legal license will eventually clear you, but for people like content creators who rely in timely posts, the fight can be a pain even if you win. 

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  9. 3 hours ago, Carl Ewing said:

    Unless you're using extraordinarily generic melodic samples and have zero production or arrangements skills this is never going to be a problem. The people getting these strikes are literally just copy pasting melodic loops that are generic af "hey baby, let's party ya ya" or full on generic af guitar riffs and not even trying. Lol. 

    Sampling is a multi-decade long old art form that isn't for old f***s or basement dweebs who have no idea what they are doing.

    Here's why places like Loopcloud are a goldmine - because you have terrabytes of content to create literally anything you want just by using your brain. A breakdown of the sampling in Prodigy's "Smack my Bitch Up."  This is how sampling took over pop / hip-hop - it's fun as hell, and creative af:
     

    And the actual commercial track: 

     

    Not sure if you have been keeping up, but Ai can now identify one shots and very talented creators like Venus Theory have been flagged. We are no longer talking about hacks who lazily loop as is. You can chop and flip anyway you want and still be flagged. 

  10. 15 minutes ago, aidan o driscoll said:

    From Loopcloud webite:

    Are all of Loopcloud’s samples royalty-free? -

    Yes. You’ll have a full royalty-free license for every sample that you download from Loopcloud. Any samples that you purchase with points - or through your free quota - are yours for a lifetime. 

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    This from here - Loopcloud 6.0 Review: Changing the Way You Produce Music

    Loopcloud is a DAW-integrated sample subscription service. It lets you audition, chop up, and tweak over 4 million loops and one-shots, all of which are 100% royalty-free. That means you can use them however you’d like without risk of owing a copyright owner money!

     

    As I said in my post above you have to stop viewing loopcloud as JUST LOOPS. The app and tools around it and integration with your daw turn this system into having the ability to make original instruments from loops .. Also keep in mind its not just loops, its one hit sounds too for example full one hit kits 

    They also have worked alot on the search algorithm system to really narrow down a search for loop types you are looking for.

     

    I'm aware they have more than loops, but thanks for the reminder.  Loops are still their bread and butter. It's literally in the name lol. I'm not bashing them. I just found it wasn't for me. As far as the licensing, I believe they have done their homework and they are truly royalty free, but no one has fully solved the problem of AI thinking your usage of the sample you used is not a sample of other copyrighted material using same sample. 

     

    As for the other features. I found them ok but was not blown away.  Again, I think some people love these fearures and I would encourage people test for themselves I was speaking strictly from my own experience.

  11. Another reason I have cooled on sample sites is the licenses are often ridiculous. I have read small print on some samples (including the midi) that require full production credit and absurd split of royalties if placed.  

    When I read one license agreement, I realized that all these vintage instruments, scaler type products and sound degrading processors made it kind of easy to "make" vintage sounding samples. Not only does this work well, but this is how a lot of these sample loops are made.  It's actually less time consuming to make samples than to search through hundreds of thousands. 

    With that said, some don't feel like doing all of that so services like Loopcloud are helpful to them.

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  12. I pass on it annually! I tried trial and the sounds are good.  It does, however, suffer from the Splice Paradox( I should trademark that l); the tendency for the best sounds to be overused to the point where algorithms on platforms like Youtube and Spotify think you are infringing on the other 3,000 people who used loop before you did. Algorithms are getting to the point where they are picking up if you glitch or change key.   I would see if you could give trial a speed run before sale ends and see if it is for you.

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