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Wait a minute....are you taking Jim's word over a guy with 12 posts?

Been demoing this for a few days and it sounds very, very good on cleans, crunch, and lead. Looks like this is going to be added to my collection very soon. Thanks all!!

Getting a little surreal now. Had an email from T&S stating as I had bought K13. Could I give a review. Erm....... want to say "you've had my money since 3rd June. How about you dispatch it. And I'll review it! Gawd help us.........

That's because what you are buying here is last year's version. The new version will come along immediately after they have finished milking this one and that will probably have AS2 in it, or then again they may hold it back for the new top level Komplete 14HHSYRTYHE (Ha Ha Sucker You Really Thought You Had Everything) version that will only go on sale once everyone has upgraded to K14 UCE.

Probably gun shy. Every time I’ve posted anything here I do it with hesitation. I don’t ever want to come off as a salesman. I just like to help people. This forum has improved tremendously I will say! I used to see a lot of negative comments and it seems that most of that has been taken care of. Now, I point people here every chance I get!

Uhhh... yes. First, not all virtual-instruments stream samples from disk (Superior Drummer 3, EZ Drummer 2, Addictive Drums, etc). Those Vi's that do stream from disk... buffer the transient of each sample using a small bit of RAM. I'll use Reaper as an example (MacBook Pro in this case)... as it's cross-platform and extremely small-footprint. Open an empty project, add a single instance of Kontakt... and load up The Grandeur (acoustic piano). With just Reaper and The Grandeur loaded, OSX shows 4.51GB of RAM being used. Now, add a second track with Super Drummer 3... and load the "clean" Ayotte kit. OSX now reports 6.61GB memory being used. On a MacBook Pro with 8GB, you've got less than 1.5GB of free RAM. I wouldn't consider a two track piano/drum project to be "heavy orchestration". ? If a machine runs out of physical RAM, it'll use the VM swapfile (in lieu of physical RAM). That kills performance. Professional composers working on TV and Film are running a minimum of 64GB RAM (most are now running 128GB). Many of these folks are clients...

Some of use mean middle school girls on this forum use desktops that we've built. I've built a 9900K system for the M1 price and no soldering required. I do think it's great that Apple went full blown proprietary. Too bad they are still pricey.

The m1 sounds amazing - why would you return a computer that can load an instrument containing 5.26GB (compressed)/13.7GB (uncompressed) sample data (which is the size of the actual sample data, irrespective of the CPU's instruction set), as well as all those other instruments into 8GB system RAM, and continue running smoothly at low latencies? Sounds like a great DAW; wouldn't it have been better to hold onto it, and then upgrade/trade up when the next version comes out? Can you remember which other instruments (you mentioned strings, horns, guitars, piano, and vocals) you loaded into Kontakt? * https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/keys/the-grandeur/

snarky

Depends, are they really really really really good posts?

Ahem, read his first line in his post (i quoted it for you here). If you don't know Jim is a pro DAW builder who is meticulous as all get out. I accept what he says as I know him to be thorough.

Keep sipping that Apple kool-aid, and M1 will magically be better than Intel or AMD... ?

I helped someone with a similar problem. He was running iZotope Ozone as a plug-in something like 20 tracks. That will bring any system to its knees

@Ronny.G - We've fixed the issue with templates that you reported in your first post. This will be available in the next release. Your latest issue sounds like it could be different, but it could also be related to the original bug... did you load any track templates in this project? The original bug means that the MIDI ports are in a strange state after importing the template. This might explain why you cant change the ports after importing. For the moment, I'd advise against loading/saving synth templates with routing until the next release. Routing from hardware MIDI ports should be fine, but if the template contains MIDI routing from synths within the template, that's where the issue arises, and it pretty much messes up all the ports. Like I said though, it's been fixed for the next release.

There is an intro price of $65 available now on the Audiofier site. I wonder if the price will be lower in the stores. http://www.audiofier.com/tetrality/

I liked Tape Face. Haven’t played with it as much as I’d like to but for $25 it’s a steal and on couple of tracks I tried it on it sounded as good as some of my other emulations. Here is a gearspace thread where others seem to like it quite a bit also: https://gearspace.com/board/new-product-alert/1354236-kiive-audio-releases-4-new-plugins.html Everyone is also raving about FILKCHANNEL which is on sale but not on flash sale like Tape Face. I’ll have to check it out next.

That is not LatencyMon, that is their registry management tool. Download LatencyMon from this direct link and install it: https://www.resplendence.com/download/LatencyMon.exe

Kuassa's Vermillion is great on cleans.

It would blow away your older MacBook Pro. I'm not much of an Apple guy... and not a fan of ultra small form-factor machines for "workstation" purposes. A laptop that's passive-cooled with 8GB of RAM is suitable for it's design purpose (Surfing the Web, office duty, etc). With 8GB RAM, a small handful of virtual-instruments would have the machine RAM-starved. Open up Chrome with half a dozen tabs active/open. You can chew thru RAM quickly. Even using compression to stretch that 8GB further... it's running lean. If small-form-factor also means small-cooling, that's going to limit performance. Some folks will try to tell you the M1 (mobile CPU) will out-perform something like the 5950x (desktop CPU). If expecting that level of performance, the laws of thermal-dynamics (tight enclosure) are going to disappoint you. ? If you're expecting a great performing mobile CPU, you'll be pleasantly surprised. It will be interesting to see what Apple does in a desktop version of the M1. My idea of a great small-form-factor machine: Lian-Li TU-150 mini-ITX case - allows full-sized Noctua 140mm cooler Full-sized cooler means you can run a high-end desktop CPU... at full speed. Up to 64GB RAM Multiple internal SSDs (including M.2 NVMe Ultra) Small... but zero performance compromise Runs near dead-silent

I made this video so that you can use some good vsts with Cakewalk all the links to the vsts are in the description of the video. Hope this help people looking for free vsts to use.

So far when I commit an arrangement, any multiple track disappear. if I made notes in a separate arranger track I lose them. Maybe there is something I just don't get but I would like to keep all arranger tracks when I commit the arrangement. They should move/copy with the associated primary track. Otherwise I don't get the purpose of multiple arranger tracks.

Been working for a while now on porting the popular ORCHESTOOLS ONE library for sampletank3 to dedicated VST instruments. Thus the ORCHESTOOLS SECTIONS | FREE PUBLIC ORCHESTRA idea was born. It is comprised of 4 virtual instruments built on the same Versilian Studios VSCO 2 Community Edition sample library. The first three instruments - ORCHESTOOLS | STRINGS, ORCHESTOOLS | BRASS and ORCHESTOOLS | WINDS cover, as their name suggests, specific sections of the orchestra. Each has 4 layers in which different samplemaps can be loaded to create various sounds and textures and each layer can be independently edited with plenty of controls for amplitude, filtering, LFO and ENVELOPE modulation, dynamics and effects. All of them feature a preset library with over 100 factory presets and favorite and search funcionality. The fourth instrument - ORCHESTOOLS | PERC has all mentioned features but has 6 layers and a somewhat different UI. The first instrument in the row is ORCHESTOOLS | STRINGS , released recently - check https://musictop69.wixsite.com/orchestools/ for download links and news! Two short teaser videos bellow demonstrate the sounds, the looks and the capabilities of ORCHESTOOLS | STRINGS instrument of the series! Opensource and free, forever! Make Music & Love. -

The Signal Flow Knowing how things flow in your DAW is essential in order to get things flowing with your music. So many questions can be answered, so many things clarified just by viewing the signal flow. The attached PDF is from the Sonar Reference Guide PDF on page 1071. This PDF was created from a screen capture on my iPhone 6s Plus and might not be large enough; if not, search for Signal Flow in the documentation you have access to. Why know this? You may want to route something a certain way and it’s great to know where your signal is coming from and where it’s going to avoid clipping and to fix problems if something isn’t sounding quite right. Signal Flow Quick Tip 1: ProChannel flows from top to bottom; so to set up an analog style chain, use Tape Emulation, then Console Emulation, then your compression and EQ will be as if you were compressing/EQ’ing on that console. Signal Flow Quick Tip 2: If you purchase the FET compressor from Softube, you’ll have an FET compressor module availabe in ProChannel. How sweet is that! Hope that gets things flowing for you, —Maximus (Rock Mojo Studio) Signal Flow.pdf

Devastator Warzone https://keep-forest.com/store/libraries/225380

No. I don't need to. I know how to read. I also can comprehend what I read. I read the posts of a reputable man stating facts. May want to read Jim's posts again, as I suggested to you before.

Most believable thing you've said in this thread! : )

I believe you have an issue you haven't identified that may continue to plague you until you resolve it. I think latency monitor is the best tool for you to do this.

Most BS comment in this thread. Hugh you seem to be speaking like Jim is referring to x86 architecture. Might want to read his posts again. For reference: Jim stated the speed of NVMe and Ram. Did you notice that he didn't list a machine/cpu/architecture? That's because it don't matter. Let that sink in.

Bome MIDI Translator should do this and a lot more.

Er no.

You should not use input echo to record audio tracks unless your using guitar sims. Use your audio interfaces direct monitoring system. I've heard where you can actually have issues if you use a super high buffer setting. Most folks use around 256. But I think a Lynx is one of the better performers.

You find ‘me, Larsy baby!

yeah but if you're getting material from someone else and have to tweak it, you can't always go back and ask them to re-perform it or because a producer has asked you to change tempos on their material... i'd like to see the audio snap work as well.

I love the title of this song. It's not far from my understanding of physics in general. You are producing songs so rapidly that I have a hard time of keeping up. I'm just too slow. Well done, and thanks for all the fish~~~

He just did?

Live In London - Supertramp

I think this is the best critique I have read about Cakewalk by Bandlab. I also have to agree. I doubt it could be said better.

FWIW, None of those virtual-instruments are using deep-sampled libraries. Single instance of The Grandeur (Kontakt standalone - no DAW application open) puts Mac Mini well over 8GB RAM.

Their Matchlock as well

Wusikstation was one of my early major purchases. Haven't used it in a while but used it a lot for a period of time. Wusikstation has a great GM bank. There are a number of other diamonds buried among the mass quantities of meh. If you got more time than money and money is dear it's a great buy for $27.

* Have you tried disconnecting all of your audio inputs to make sure it's not coming from there ? Record a blank signal to see what happens. * I have a few soft synths that make noise with too many notes playing or if a passage is too busy. * Some soft synth sounds require more firepower than others * If you are using soft synths try freezing them all to see if it helps. Try it one by one to see if one causes more trouble than others. * It is a process of elimination. Track down every possibility. * If you have a second audio in device try it instead. * Try a song with all audio, try another with all soft synth. * The TTS synth has always been reliable for me. Try that alone. Good Luck.

Turn of your internet. I had to do this last night. Normally it never causes problems but out of the blue I was getting a drop out on a project that I just started. I upped my buffers a bit and it still happened. It happened about 5 times and I then disabled the internet and it never came back.

Grem, Authorization is either from a simple serial number or the synth delivered already activated. No strangled online crap or restrictions. Like Paul said however, the new stuff is way late. Got into the group buy 2019 with Wusikstation 10 only a few days away. Wusik arp on the horizon. Other things to be added to the faithful who went for the group buy. None of this has happened yet and may never happen. Screwed in one sense though I can understand the COVID and other excuses given for not delivering on schedule. However, if what you see is what you get in the here and now, still a great deal. Comparing the likes of AAS Lounge Lizard where there are many layers of articulation so the harder you bang, the more subtleties evolve. The Wusik romplers allow velocity response for volume but no volume dependent envelopes that mimic real life, since playing one sample per instrument only. The preset is either loud or soft. That's it. Can however craft great multis since you can play 4 slots with different instruments and control envelopes and effects for each slot. If volume dependent articulations are not needed as in a hi volume song, nothing is lost or noticed. Sound installer is universal across the samplers and about a 16 GB download. Can't beat the price for what you get. John

Everything is off sale except the solo vocalists at $58 each and coupon won't work on those... All Cage is still $148, so would be $74 with the code...that's 150 Gb uncompressed https://8dio.com/instrument/cage-bundle/?bundle_quantity_16=1&bundle_quantity_17=1&bundle_quantity_18=1

You can download latency monitor tho find out what problems you have.

I just found this thread in my own search for a midi signal flow chart. I can't find one. I'm going to put in a support request.

No need to watch videos... ? I'll grab one with 16GB RAM... and put it thru some real-world circumstances.

Speed: PCIe 4.0 NVMe currently sustains ~7GB/Sec DDR4 sustains ~20-25GB/Sec Response Time: NVMe is ~0.05ms DDR4 is ~0.00005ms NVMe is sequential (not Random Access like RAM) While NVMe drives are fast... they're not a good substitute for RAM. There is no magic/voodoo with machines. Slower hardware means slower performance. The M1 MacBook Air is passive-cooled.

Play the bass part on guitar, use Melodyne to convert the guitar part into MIDI (i.e., drag into MIDI track), clean up the data as needed, drop the notes down an octave, and trigger your bass instrument of choice.

This still needs to happen.. It would help peoples work flow so much. Just going through my request just wanted to add the +1 for this request,