kzmaier Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) I'm having trouble with the Smart tool on tracks with multiple clips/takes. I want the edit tool to do a crop clip but where ever I move the mouse I get the cross-fade or crop abutting clips icons. I prefer to keep my clips in one piece (clip = good take) so I work in sound on sound mode. This seems to have changed in 07/09 versions. I do not see how to correct this behavior. Any suggestions are welcome. PS. I have not updated to 11/2019 as of yet. Thanks, Edited March 31, 2020 by kzmaier SOLVED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Baay Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) I havne't used this gesture enough to know if it was any different before 19.07, but here's what I'm seeing in 19.11, and it mostly agrees with the documentation. - With the Smart tool in lanes, I can get the crop tool but the hotspot is extremely small and hard to hit - just in from the clip border in a narrow band in the upper half. - The Ref. Guide shows the whole zone along the boundary between the clips is devoted to moving the split point except at the top where you get the fade tool and in the bottom half where you get the Comp tool (if enabled). - It's not documented AFAIK, but I found that disabling the Comp tool function of the Smart tool gives you the crop tool near the boundary in the lower half of the clip (same as what you get in the parent track with lanes collapsed). - Switching to the Edit tool gives a much bigger hit zone for cropping and works fine. https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=4&help=Tools.04.html Edited December 3, 2019 by David Baay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzmaier Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Thanks David, I will give this another try. Was rather frustrating. This must have changed somewhere along the path. Still a big fan of the Cake!!! Just lacking time with the studio, playing out more than in these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzmaier Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Came across this in 2019.09 update, I wonder if this is where things changed??? The crop zone was not working as I expected. https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=Cakewalk&language=3&help=NewFeatures.11.html New key modifiers for edits in Take lanes CTRL+ALT+drag adjusts a single crossfade Hold SHIFT and drag a clip edge to crop an individual clip Holding SHIFT on Comp track (lanes collapsed) now allows for adjusting split location across lanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzmaier Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) I'm sorry to bring this up again ... but still having this issue. I just want to crop one clip in a track with multiple takes. Note the clip start, lines up with other clips in different takes. I tried using the smart tool filter option??? I'm using sound on sound record mode. Is this just me??? Maybe its an OCD thing;) Running latest version of Cakewalk. Edited March 30, 2020 by kzmaier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkpain Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, kzmaier said: I'm sorry to bring this up again ... but still having this issue. I just want to crop one clip in a track with multiple takes. Note the clip start, lines up with other clips in different takes. I tried using the smart tool filter option??? I'm using sound on sound record mode. Is this just me??? Maybe its an OCD thing;) Running latest version of Cakewalk. Does it not work for you to hold SHIFT while dragging the single clip start edge on the lane you want? Otherwise, holding ALT while mousing to the upper half of the chosen clip and then clicking to split just that clip at that point also now works. These are operable on my latest build version (2020.1, build 28), anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzmaier Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) I tried shift and alt when the wrong tool was shown. Will try moving the cursor around more??? Edited March 30, 2020 by kzmaier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkpain Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, kzmaier said: I tried shift and alt when the wrong tool was shown. What's the "wrong tool" ? It works (the SHIFT and ALT options) as expected with the Smart Tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzmaier Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 I think its called the cross-fade tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkpain Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) Well.... what happens when you press SHIFT or ALT with the Smart Tool selected?? Edited March 30, 2020 by winkpain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzmaier Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Its me, I was hitting ctl and alt when trying to get the crop tool. Forgot to use the shift key... If anyone else is having this problem, USE the shift key!! Oh the shame... How do I mark this as solved? Edited March 31, 2020 by kzmaier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkpain Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, kzmaier said: How do I mark this as solved? I believe just editing your original post and put ting "[SOLVED]" in the title will work. Glad you figured it out. No shame! There are SO many permutations of incorrect possibilities, and sharing the process here is why we come, or some of us anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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