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[Scott H]

I downloaded the Chandler Limited Curve Bender demo yesterday and tried it out on several tracks and master buses. As promised, just about any way that you tweak the knobs, the results are quite musical and pleasing. I also like the work flow. It’s helpful to be able to turn off/on the individual curves without losing your settings. Before long, my Gear Acquisition Syndrome was at near critical levels.  At $56.25, the Curve Bender is at an all-time low price! I succumbed to the GAS and bought it.

It is funny. I've seen several YouTube videos claiming that you are an idiot to buy analog EQ emulations. The argument is essentially that Pro-Q4 can recreate any classic analog EQ curve. Vintage EQ emulations are simply marketing hype separating suckers from their money. The argument continues that any special vintage harmonics or "analog EQ mojo" (if it actually exists) can easily be recreated by adding the distortion plugin of your choice at the end of your effects chain. 

This is slightly depressing to hear and I suppose it could all be true. That said, as a rank amateur mixing hobbyist, the Curve Bender just might be exactly what I need. When it comes down to completing projects that sound borderline decent, I’ve discovered that I work best with fewer options and decision points, not more. Choosing from preselected notched frequency bands with stepped decibels, really does help to mitigate my analysis paralysis. Smoothly blended analog-style curves, that almost always sound good, keep me from going off the rails. Also, I don't want to have to add the analog vintage mojo after the fact. I would like it built-in please. So, it is a big Yes to the Chandler Limited Curve Bender for me.

[Moon OverSea]

A good argument about less or more

Edited Friday at 01:22 AM by Moon OverSea

[Moon OverSea]

11 hours ago, Scott H said:

I downloaded the Chandler Limited Curve Bender demo yesterday and tried it out on several tracks and master buses. As promised, just about any way that you tweak the knobs, the results are quite musical and pleasing. I also like the work flow. It’s helpful to be able to turn off/on the individual curves without losing your settings. Before long, my Gear Acquisition Syndrome was at near critical levels.  At $56.25, the Curve Bender is at an all-time low price! I succumbed to the GAS and bought it.

It is funny. I've seen several YouTube videos claiming that you are an idiot to buy analog EQ emulations. The argument is essentially that Pro-Q4 can recreate any classic analog EQ curve. Vintage EQ emulations are simply marketing hype separating suckers from their money. The argument continues that any special vintage harmonics or "analog EQ mojo" (if it actually exists) can easily be recreated by adding the distortion plugin of your choice at the end of your effects chain. 

This is slightly depressing to hear and I suppose it could all be true. That said, as a rank amateur mixing hobbyist, the Curve Bender just might be exactly what I need. When it comes down to completing projects that sound borderline decent, I’ve discovered that I work best with fewer options and decision points, not more. Choosing from preselected notched frequency bands with stepped decibels, really does help to mitigate my analysis paralysis. Smoothly blended analog-style curves, that almost always sound good, keep me from going off the rails. Also, I don't want to have to add the analog vintage mojo after the fact. I would like it built-in please. So, it is a big Yes to the Chandler Limited Curve Bender for me.

Actually it's almost true that Pro-Q4 can recreate any classic analog EQ curve which can be confirmed with tools like plugin doctor.

But some times you will find the curve could be extreamly unbelievable strange while you normally won't make that happen in Pro-Q4, but it sounds good with your ears. I think that's the meanning of the many special plugins about EQ adjustment.

Or else you could define the special presets in your Pro-Q4 that have similar curve with other EQ plugins, if so one plugin is enough.

Besides the EQ, some plugins will add saturation with its flavour what could become different with one Pro-Q4 plugin.

Edited Friday at 05:15 AM by Moon OverSea

[Zo]

Most people think matching curves makes it tyhe same  helas ..... the phase is where the money at ...

80 % of your eq struggling in a mix is due to bad phase management / alignement  , so you compênsate with emphasis of some freq (fundamentals , cutting other stuff ect ..) 

Also curve you have with vintage HW , you will never think of it with ProQ4 or any equivalent sometime .... copying curve is one thing .... doing those straight from a blanc canva is another one ....

as for the chandler eq  : solid choice

[MusicMan]

20 minutes ago, Zo said:

Most people think matching curves makes it tyhe same  helas ..... the phase is where the money at ...

80 % of your eq struggling in a mix is due to bad phase management / alignement  , so you compênsate with emphasis of some freq (fundamentals , cutting other stuff ect ..) 

Also curve you have with vintage HW , you will never think of it with ProQ4 or any equivalent sometime .... copying curve is one thing .... doing those straight from a blanc canva is another one ....

as for the chandler eq  : solid choice

That's often my thinking as well Zo.

There's also a lot to be said for inspiration that can come from working with things like this that you just like, without having to over analyze too.

[Zo]

57 minutes ago, MusicMan said:

That's often my thinking as well Zo.

There's also a lot to be said for inspiration that can come from working with things like this that you just like, without having to over analyze too.

Indeed ....and this can surely be interpolated to HW versus HW , sound generations as Fx ....

Had this discussion with friends talking about elektron versus Akai mpc  .... (me i went elektron , he pusshing me to go akai mpc libve 3 ) 

On paper the mpc live 3 is like ProQ4 , features iwes it's a beast ...

But the digitakt 2 is like an instruments , not a pack of features , and a superb workflow :

RESULTS : with the first i go on place i use to go , on the second i go places i would never with the first one , simply because the workflow makes it so unrational that i mainly focus on ideas and not process .....