Possible Groove Clip Looping Problem

[Steve Ennever]

Hi,

When needs be this tool has always worked pretty effortlessly for me, but today when applying it to a simple snare it kept stretching the 1 bar/ 16 beat pattern to a 2 bar/ 8 beat.

I tried it on various other bits of percussion & recordings and no matter what the pattern, if it was 1 bar, it was stretched to 2.   

I've searched for settings but found nothing. 

Am I missing something here? 

 

Best...

 

Steve E  

   

[David Baay]

Sonar sometimse guesses the number of beats in the clip incorrectly. Go to the Groove Clip section of the Clip Properties tab in the Inspector and correct the Beats in Clip value.

[Steve Ennever]

3 hours ago, David Baay said:

Sonar sometimse guesses the number of beats in the clip incorrectly. Go to the Groove Clip section of the Clip Properties tab in the Inspector and correct the Beats in Clip value.

Hi David,

Turns out it wasn't Sonar's incorrect guessing but, having followed your advice, I found in Groove Clip Properties that the Bar was set at 8 beats not 4. 

Trouble is, resetting it to 4 beats certainly cured the problem - for that individual loop, but not for any other loops or new ones I subsequently added - once 'groove clipped' all of them had to be adjusted the same way via the properties tab. 

Therefore, as this problem has never existed in all the years I've worked with Sonar, there's either a master setting of which I'm unaware which has been reset due to update.

Or this is an update problem. 

Any thoughts? 

 

Steve E 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mark skinner]

Steve , this problem has popped up up for me as well in several versions of CbB/Sonar. Some were Very simple drum clips. Seems to happen randomly . It must be a tricky problem to resolve.        ms

[David Baay]

19 hours ago, Steve Ennever said:

Turns out it wasn't Sonar's incorrect guessing but, having followed your advice, I found in Groove Clip Properties that the Bar was set at 8 beats not 4. 

That's what I mean by incorrect guess. It seems to do well with patterns having strong quarter-note beats but might do less well with patterns containing  less well-defined 8th or 16-note patterns. If it thinks 8ths are quarters, it will overestimate the beats in clip by 2x.

I'd be very surprised if the algorithm has changed significantly from CbB to Sonar or even since the last release of Platinum.