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Craig Wilkerson

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Looking for a solution to this ongoing latency issue.
I am trying to record bass on an almost finished song.  I have all other tracks frozen and plugins turned off. Running through an Apollo Twin and I have also disabled extra buffering in UAs system configuration. I also lowered latency to 1.5 milliseconds in Sonar under preferences/ driver settings.....
BUT...I am still getting a lag/delay between my attack and sound with latency monitoring on. HELP! SO frustrated. My PC is pretty robust ie powerful processor with 32 RAM 
Any ideas? Thx

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How long is the lag/delay? 

It is probably an effect that has a long buffer time, so that the total internal latency to compensate for that ends up much bigger than your pure audio interface latency.

What happens if you disable fx in the project?  EDIT: nevermind, you already said you ahve plugins turned off.   

I don't remember if just turning them off removes the added latency, though. 

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I’m assuming that you are recording a real bass. 
Are you using your interface direct monitoring system or are you using the tracks input echo?  
 

I’ve never experienced hearing latency in over 16 years of Sonar and at least 7 different audio interfaces. But I always use direct monitoring when tracking vocals. Guitar and bass.
Track Input echo (monitoring ) is always off otherwise you will hear the round trip latency of your system. 
I only use the tracks input monitor for midi recording. 
The only time I might use it is messing around with a guitar sim VST like TH3
 

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not sure how many people do this, calibrating (or at least understanding) your system performance helps to avoid a lot of issues, or at the very least help you make decisions based on your system.

a free tool Room EQ Wizard (REW) has a loopback calibration setup which allows you to test the round trip of your recording and monitoring IO - time, frequency response, phase, etc. so while most folks know of REW for measuring their room acoustics, setting up parametric EQ for corrections, but it also let's you determine how much audio system latency you have.

basically, you run a cable between 1 ch output and route it into a 2nd ch input. in my system, i have a patchbay so it's pretty easy to do periodically in case there is some change in the drivers or whathaveyou. i use it on my c1 into ch2, then ch 2 into ch1 (so two tests). 

when i'm doing my room acoustics measures, i also leverage it for setting levels on my speakers and sub. but that's a whole other topic...

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