Zero controllers

[Steve Moddelmog]

Sonar documentation says Zero Controllers When Play Stops 'also sends a “zero all continuous controllers” MIDI message which turns off other continuous controllers on newer synthesizers.'  Does anyone know specifically what "other continuous controllers" should be reset with this enabled?  I have it enabled but I am getting stuck notes all the time with complex presets in many newer VSTs. 

[Amberwolf]

In my experience, VSTs that get stuck simply don't respond to note off messages correctly, and/or Sonar isn't sending the right version of note-off message to it (different than the one it expects).

If there is an option in your version of Sonar to send *all* the possible versions of note-off messages to all MIDI ports, virtual, hardware, and VST/DX/VI, I'd try that first.  Might be in Panic Button options. 

 

 

I don't have that option in my ancient version, so to fix it in the synth I use all the time that does this I have to toggle the arp state (doesn't matter if it's used or not, but doing this stops any stuck notes in Z3TA+2). 

Edited 10 hours ago by Amberwolf

[msmcleod]

There are two separate MIDI messages:

- All Notes Off:   turns off all notes
- Reset Controllers:  resets all continuous controllers

"Zero All Controllers" sends the latter, which has no effect on Notes, unless there's a sustain CC event that hasn't been reset.   

For hardware MIDI devices both these messages are sent out.  Obviously it's up to those synths to respond appropriately.

For software synths, it's slightly different when Zero All Controllers is enabled.  Pitch Bend, Modulation and Sustain are always reset.   Reset Controllers is only sent out to soft synths if  the Cakewalk.ini setting SendResetsToSoftSynths  is set to 1.

However again, it's up to those synths to respond appropriately.