What is up with that countdown?

[Anders Madsen]

After decades using Cakewalk, I did not hesitate to switch to UA Luna when things got "turbulent" and subscriptions were mentioned.
The day before yesterday, I found the "Free tier" and I'm not gonna lie. That was fun. Just like putting on my old favourite jeans.
(Most of all, I think I miss the good guys and moods in the CW forum)

There is, however, a few show stoppers that can make me redo the switch. There is a countdown when starting Cakewalk. What is it good for? It looks like sabotage to me.
Also, I need to find a way to quantize my badly timed analogue bass line(s). It is called "Warp" in Luna.
Is there such a thing in Cakewalk that works?

Edited 1 hour ago by Anders Madsen

[RobertWS]

2 hours ago, Anders Madsen said:

 prescriptions were mentioned.

Subscriptions?

[David Baay]

2 hours ago, Anders Madsen said:

I need to find a way to quantize my badly timed analogue bass line(s). It is called "Warp" in Luna.

Audiosnap in Sonar. Expand the Audiosnap section on the Clip Properties tab in the Inspector and check the Enable box. Click on the clip to open the Audiosnap Palette that gives access to the various functions including Quantize. You can also hit Q for general quantizing, and the dialog box has an option to Audiosnap Beats which shuold be checekd by default.

First thing to do in the Palette is to make sure the Clip Tempo was  detected correctly andchange it if necessary, the drag the Threshold slider to adjust the transient detection sensitivity and/or Resolution setting to leave a transient marker active on each bass note, and no superfluous ones, Sometimes you wil need to manually enable some individual transient markers that the Threshold adjustment is suppressing or vice versa.

Beyond that you will want to read up on the Clip Tempo Map and other Audiosnap features in the Ref. Guide.

[Bass Guitar]

The count down and nag screen are designed to purposely annoy you to the point that you give in and either return to Platinum or buy a membership. I’m using Platinum and I love it. 
 

Regarding perfect timing and bass lines. I have played bass for about exactly 60 years now. My timing is not the issue but getting a clear, clean bass sound was always a challenge. 

My solution was I just don’t worry about it and I convert the analog bass track into midi.
 

I then use either Ample P Bass or the Full  Acoustic Bass from Dim Pro (or Rapture. )

This has given me the best results by far as it is actually me playing the bass but it sounds clean and sits perfectly in the mix.

The ability to fine tune everything in PRV makes it so the bass is now not only performed perfectly but is a steady tone and amplitude. 

I have way over 300 backing tracks and the bass and drums need to always be the same level or your fussing about the mix all the time. 

And all my original songs are done this way too. I even fool myself. The Ample P bass sounds almost exactly like my Yamaha bass. 
 

It’s as simple as you record the bass and then insert the Ample P Bass VST ( the SI bass is also not bad) and drag the audio into it. Melodyne ARA will convert it to midi. Mute the original. 

First I have to transpose up an octave. 
 

Then the duration will need shrinking a bit to clean up overlapping. 

If you played to the metronome or a midi drum track then quantized to the appropriate degree. Which is the answer to your question. A simple push of a button! Bingo. 

Then I take the velocities and make them all 106. Some would argue that I just sucked the life out of the track but this gives me the results I need. 
 

If you’re not wanting to use the midi then David’s method can work but my problem with that is it takes way longer to make the whole track sound the way I want it. Hour and hours. 

Converting to midi takes less than 30 seconds and then the editing process can be done in a few minutes if you are adept with the tools. 
 

The other option is you can use Melodyne as it handles audio in the same way you would work with midi. But once again perfecting an audio track is a lot more difficult than perfecting a midi track. 

Another huge advantage is that midi is the most future proof way to preserve your work. 
 

Im now only going to be playing acoustic guitar gigs. Over the last few days I created 50 new backing tracks using my back up midi files. I can open them in any Daw. 
I only want the bass and very laid back drums just as a sort of click track. .
 

 And I also want the Acoustic bass. Having the ability to quickly open, edit and export the tracks is 100 % thanks to midi. Some midi files are from the 80’s. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Bass Guitar

[Anders Madsen]

2 hours ago, RobertWS said:

Subscriptions?

Yes. Thx. i didn't even see that. Don't know where my brain was..   

 

[Anders Madsen]

3 hours ago, David Baay said:

Audiosnap in Sonar. Expand the Audiosnap section on the Clip Properties tab in the Inspector and check the Enable box. Click on the clip to open the Audiosnap Palette that gives access to the various functions including Quantize. You can also hit Q for general quantizing, and the dialog box has an option to Audiosnap Beats which shuold be checekd by default.

First thing to do in the Palette is to make sure the Clip Tempo was  detected correctly andchange it if necessary, the drag the Threshold slider to adjust the transient detection sensitivity and/or Resolution setting to leave a transient marker active on each bass note, and no superfluous ones, Sometimes you wil need to manually enable some individual transient markers that the Threshold adjustment is suppressing or vice versa.

Beyond that you will want to read up on the Clip Tempo Map and other Audiosnap features in the Ref. Guide.

I've used audiosnap in CW before. It was allways a drag. I was hoping it had been replaced, or drastically improved.
I was allways better of cutting and nudging.
(Have you tried "Warp" in Luna?)
 

Edited 1 hour ago by Anders Madsen