VST-Parameter Envelope in Clip-Editor

[Astraios]

Hey Ho - good news... 🤠

Controlling a Sonar VST envelope via an internal plug-in (BC-Remote Control) remotely is possible without the MIDI Learn function. Thanks to "loopMIDI" (a virtual MIDI cable), it's actually possible. My SetUp can be controlled both way with the mouse or the hardware controller. It took me a year or so to get it right. For a long time, I thought it was impossible... WOW - Sonar MIDI wonder tool!!

Z3TA+ --> "OSC1 Twist" doesn't have a MIDI learn function and can be accessed in the clip editor via a VST parameter envelope. However, you have to route the signal from Sonar via a MIDIout-Port for it to trigger the envelope. And even though the whole thing is controlled via "Sonar Remote Control" and I can even block the MIDI signal flow by echo or mute. This option takes me a huge step further...

Blue Cat's "Remote Control" plugin is essentially a virtual MIDI controller that allows you to conveniently label individual MIDI functions. This is great, of course, because it lets you know which function has been assigned to which button, knob, or slider. That's exactly what I'm after: I want to control my virtual synths very precisely and comprehensively.

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:41 AM by Astraios

[Astraios]

In this case, realtime MIDIinput via the Sonar Remote Control Tool isn't possible, as you can't perform any further functions with the PC mouse once the Sonar Remote window is opened. Therefore, you have to enter the MIDI data manually into the Remote Tool (which means you have to know the values). I don't know if the reverse approach—moving the databar in the  Clip-Editor Remote Area  (using pc mouse) to move the Plugin's knob is possible? 

It sounds very complicated (and it is), but the goal was to use the  right side (Blue Cat) Plugin knob (Twist) to move the left side databar  in the clip editor.

It won't work without the loopMIDI tool (virtual ports). It fools Sonar and tricks the DAW into thinking it's receiving external MIDI input, even though it's actually Sonars own signal. Ha ha, what a trick...

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:08 PM by Astraios

[Astraios]

This is typical of the behavior of Sonar Remote Control: All EG1 functions of the Z3TA+2 are triggered by one hardware controller of my MIDI Controller, even though everything is muted and no echo is enabled (--> see Track Manager). This means that you could (by Sonar Remote Control) assign CC 110 on Chn-11 as often as you like (to hundreds of envelopes). It's obvious that this can lead to confusing overlaps. Unfortunately (as far as I know) there is no info window that provides information about assigned CCs inside of Sonar...

This may be justified from a programming perspective. I don't mean to criticize, just outline the situation as it is... I love Sonar DAW 💫