cclarry Posted Monday at 07:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:29 PM and get Relayer free! https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/1-Instruments/64-Virtual-Instrument/14075-SampleTank-4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted Monday at 08:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:52 PM I wonder what the future of SampleTank is. Ik dropped Sampletron 2 (which I love), Syntronik and Mixbox, I hope that ST isn't next on the list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclarry Posted Monday at 09:20 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 09:20 PM 28 minutes ago, jude77 said: I wonder what the future of SampleTank is. Ik dropped Sampletron 2 (which I love), Syntronik and Mixbox, I hope that ST isn't next on the list. Well hopefully, if so, they release a new (and better) replacement that will still run the old samples 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user905133 Posted Monday at 09:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:59 PM 52 minutes ago, jude77 said: I wonder what the future of SampleTank is. Ik dropped Sampletron 2 (which I love), Syntronik and Mixbox, I hope that ST isn't next on the list. I remember they announced the end of Mixbox which is software (as opposed to sounds/libraries), but with Sampletron 2 and Syntronik, did they drop the programs/software AND the libraries, or just the programs/software? I am not clear on that. Another way of asking more or less the same thing is, when someone now gets the current version of ST4 MAX (or is it now ST4 MAX v.2?), does it include the Sampletron and Syntronic sounds/libraries? Based on what I read, my understanding is that the latest incarnation of Total Studio (TS MAX 5, IIRC), does not include the Mixbox, Sampletron, and Syntronik software/programs, but does TS MAX 5 include the Sampletron and Syntronik sounds/libraries? IMPORTANT: Not looking for speculation, guesses, what's listed on the website or what's on the version comparison charts; looking to hear from people who did not have Sampletron and Syntronik before and who purchased TS MAX 5. Thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted Tuesday at 05:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:35 PM 20 hours ago, cclarry said: Well hopefully, if so, they release a new (and better) replacement that will still run the old samples You hit me with a ray of hope! Thanks! I'd love to see an ST 5. I know it's dated, but I still use it often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrate Audio Posted Tuesday at 07:44 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:44 PM 21 hours ago, user905133 said: Another way of asking more or less the same thing is, when someone now gets the current version of ST4 MAX (or is it now ST4 MAX v.2?), does it include the Sampletron and Syntronic sounds/libraries? My understanding is no. But Peter would be best to answer that. If this was for ST 4 Max, I would totally jump on this to fill out the rest of my missing libraries. I get a lot of juju out of ST and really like using it. I dont get the hate for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IK Multimedia Posted Tuesday at 07:48 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:48 PM 21 hours ago, user905133 said: I remember they announced the end of Mixbox which is software (as opposed to sounds/libraries), but with Sampletron 2 and Syntronik, did they drop the programs/software AND the libraries, or just the programs/software? I am not clear on that. Another way of asking more or less the same thing is, when someone now gets the current version of ST4 MAX (or is it now ST4 MAX v.2?), does it include the Sampletron and Syntronic sounds/libraries? Based on what I read, my understanding is that the latest incarnation of Total Studio (TS MAX 5, IIRC), does not include the Mixbox, Sampletron, and Syntronik software/programs, but does TS MAX 5 include the Sampletron and Syntronik sounds/libraries? IMPORTANT: Not looking for speculation, guesses, what's listed on the website or what's on the version comparison charts; looking to hear from people who did not have Sampletron and Syntronik before and who purchased TS MAX 5. Thanks. Both the applications/plugins and the libraries from those (Syntronik and SampleTron 2) were discontinued and are not in Total Studio 5 MAX nor SampleTank 4 MAX now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user905133 Posted Tuesday at 07:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:50 PM Just now, IK Multimedia said: Both the applications/plugins and the libraries from those (Syntronik and SampleTron 2) were discontinued and are not in Total Studio 5 MAX nor SampleTank 4 MAX now. Thanks for the clarification. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjz Posted Tuesday at 10:54 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:54 PM 2 hours ago, IK Multimedia said: Both the applications/plugins and the libraries from those (Syntronik and SampleTron 2) were discontinued and are not in Total Studio 5 MAX nor SampleTank 4 MAX now. But will they still work the latest SampleTank 4 if we have those 2 libraries from a previous purchase? I've been avoiding the latest update because it's unclear to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrate Audio Posted yesterday at 12:13 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:13 AM 1 hour ago, fjz said: But will they still work the latest SampleTank 4 if we have those 2 libraries from a previous purchase? I've been avoiding the latest update because it's unclear to me. I am using most recent update and all my old libs work fine. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjz Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:40 AM 25 minutes ago, Nitrate Audio said: I am using most recent update and all my old libs work fine. And that includes Syntronik and SampleTron 2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM 2 minutes ago, fjz said: And that includes Syntronik and SampleTron 2? It does for me. @IK Multimedia - any insight on why those products were discontinued? They really weren't that old. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted yesterday at 03:06 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:06 AM 2 hours ago, husker said: It does for me. @IK Multimedia - any insight on why those products were discontinued? They really weren't that old. What's worse is they were some of the better ones. SampleTron in particular I really like. While there is a lot of filler in Syntronik, it actually has some great sounds too. This would weaken the value proposition of future Total Studio bundles for me personally. It often makes me more cautious of buying from companies when they discontinue products like this as well, as I get less faith in their products being viable for long term. With pulling MixBox too it seems there is a lot of instability in future direction when buying IK at the moment. It probably makes sense to them, their roadmap and future direction, but as a customer I'm not inclined to jump onto products that might become sinking ships when there are alternatives that have a lower risk in that regard. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrate Audio Posted yesterday at 07:00 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:00 AM (edited) 6 hours ago, fjz said: And that includes Syntronik and SampleTron 2? Yes. but i got those libs long time ago, way before they were discontinue. The only thing that is breaking on my end is that dragging midi from ST into FL studio channel rack stopped working in FL 2025. Also, typing in search bar in ST seems to be broken in FL 2025. Both AU and VST. But it all works fine in FL 2024. So I have no clue if its an Image Line problem or a IK update. Sitting and waiting for next FL update to see if it all gets fixed. Edited yesterday at 07:02 AM by Nitrate Audio 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrate Audio Posted yesterday at 07:06 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:06 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, MusicMan said: It probably makes sense to them, their roadmap and future direction, but as a customer I'm not inclined to jump onto products that might become sinking ships when there are alternatives that have a lower risk in that regard. Yeah, it would be cool if IK did a YT video showing a road map for future so customers get some better understanding of why certain (fairly new to the market) products just got shut down. My guess is, IK have decided to not spend any more resources on updating and maintaining instrument products and decided to focus on guitar products and audio recording products. Who knows. https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/?S1=553 Edited yesterday at 07:07 AM by Nitrate Audio 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoncaloL Posted yesterday at 07:37 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:37 AM (edited) 7 hours ago, MusicMan said: It often makes me more cautious of buying from companies when they discontinue products like this as well, as I get less faith in their products being viable for long term. With pulling MixBox too it seems there is a lot of instability in future direction when buying IK at the moment. Totally agree, i honestly think that they can only get away with it because their products are so cheap, but you end up not being able to take these products seriously (not for being cheap but because of their lifespan). synthtronik 2 was released at the end of 2021, and the first version in 2017, as a term of comparison, omnisphere was released in 2008 and omnisphere 2 in 2015 and still going Edited yesterday at 10:24 AM by GoncaloL 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user905133 Posted yesterday at 03:44 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:44 PM (edited) Several weeks ago my C Drive had to be emptied and re-formatted as a boot drive, and while I had no intention of reinstalling gazillions of IK Software and Sounds, last night I started to install a number of my prior IK purchases. So, because I previously purchased licenses (and with great thanks to IK for removing the 180 day download restriction!!!!!), I can verify that I was able to re-install SampleTron 2 (software and sounds). And, yes, I just had to play the opening notes to Strawberry Fields. 🙂 Syntronik 2 also works--though I still need to make room for all the Sound Content as well as make time. MixBox (which I installed a couple of weeks ago) reinstalled and also works as far as I tested (just some basic operations). As expected, all the non-discontinued IK products that I have re-installed so far also work. Edited yesterday at 04:31 PM by user905133 corrected typing error (was "licensed licenses") 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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