Piano Roll View (PRV) Sometime shows the Midi Drum data and sometimes not?

[Roy Slough]

I am using Sonar now and a familiar problem has arisen with the PRV.

It is helpful to me to see the notes of the drum midi track while I edit a different Midi track and sometimes the note do appear.  
The first attachment shows me editing a midi track called strings while the notes of the drum track are shown. (N.B. at this stage they were a copy of the bass track)

When I changed to work on the Bass guitar, the drum notes disappear.  (second attachment)
I have tried holding down Ctrl or shift as I select different Midi Tracks I want to edit, but the drum info will not persist. (It only shows when the drum track is selected for editing.)

If I were editing the Bass guitar track and then select a different midi track with the Ctrl key held down (e.g. Ample guitar) then the bass notes are visible in a faint display, but this does not work with the drum track.

Any Ideas if I can achieve what I desire? 
Thanks

[msmcleod]

Make sure both the tracks are selected in the PRV's track selector.

[David Baay]

3 hours ago, msmcleod said:

Make sure both the tracks are selected in the PRV's track selector.

I think it has always been the case that giving focus to a track in the Notes pane causes drum-mapped notes to disappear rather than be ghosted because the PRV depends on track focus to 'know' that a drum map should be applied (and which one if there's more than one in the project). Pretty sure I've reported this in the distant past.

The mystery to me is how the OP got the first screenshot as the PRV track selector shows only the Strings track selected.

[Amberwolf]

I dont' know what the pencil icon means in the modern sonar there, but it's lit orange on boht midi drum and strings, but it is not lit on midi drum when the bass is lit.

If it's the same as the "visibility" state (show / hide track) that is in that same spot in the ancient SONAR versions, that would probably be why you can't see the drums with the bass?

[David Baay]

1 hour ago, Amberwolf said:

I dont' know what the pencil icon means in the modern sonar there, but it's lit orange on boht midi drum and strings, but it is not lit on midi drum when the bass is lit.

It means the notes will be visible and editable when you click in them if Autofocus is enabled. But unless I'm going more blind than I thought, your screenshots are showing the opposite: where the drum hits are not visible,  Drums and Bass are lit/selected, and in the shot where drum hits are visible only the Strings is lit/selected. The track with the name also lit is currently active/focused for editing. Very odd.

[Amberwolf]

23 minutes ago, David Baay said:

It means the notes will be visible and editable when you click in them if Autofocus is enabled. But unless I'm going more blind than I thought, your screenshots are showing the opposite: where the drum hits are not visible,  Drums and Bass are lit/selected, and in the shot where drum hits are visible only the Strings is lit/selected. The track with the name also lit is currently active/focused for editing. Very odd.

I don't have any screenshots, so I'm not sure what your'e referring to?

 

I was just replying to the OP / other posters about the OP's images, speculating on the differences I can see between the one with teh drums visible, and the one without.  I don't know how the modern Sonar is intended to work for those controls and visibility; just how my ancietn stuff does. 

 

Edited Monday at 11:40 PM by Amberwolf

[David Baay]

7 hours ago, Amberwolf said:

I don't have any screenshots, so I'm not sure what your'e referring to?

Sorry for the confusion. I guess I expected to be getting a reply from the OP and totally overlooked who was posting.

There hase been some evolution of the behavior of the Tracks Pane over time and I forget which version you're using, but the behavior in Sonar is pretty much unchanged from SONAR Platinum: If the track number is lit, the expectation is that the notes of the track will be visible, and if it's not they won't. His screenshots are showing the opposite with regard to the visibility and selection status of the Drums track.