jono grant Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Has anyone had any luck using "Swam" VIs in Cakewalk? Super powerful stuff but Cakewalk can't handle it for some reason. I have a file with one wave file in it, no effects and Swam is causing lags and crashing behavior. I think my computer should handle one SWAM instrument. Is there a Midi or other setting I could tweak to get it working more smoothly? Buffer is crashy at 128 and too much latency at higher rates. Tried multiple buffer sizes. Any help appreciated! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberwolf Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) Based on their FAQ they probably don't test with any bandlab products, since they don't list them. Most likely there's something their plugin does differently than the usual that CbB doesn't expect. But it could be a system compatibility issue instead--do they work in any of their listed hosts on your computer? https://kb.audiomodeling.com/en/c/compatibility/d/what-are-the-hostsdaws-compatible-with-swam-instruments Contact our support if your host/DAW is not listed here or if you experience some unexpected behavior. Free hosts On Windows: Camelot FREE version Cantabile Lite VSTHost SaviHost Chainer Professional Hosts/DAWs On Windows: Camelot Pro Reaper Cubase Pro Tools Vienna Ensemble Pro Ableton Live Digital Performer Bitwig Studio One Reason 9.5 FL Studio NI Komplete Kontrol GigPerformer LiveProfessor Finale Sibelius Edited May 25 by Amberwolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono grant Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 9 minutes ago, Amberwolf said: Based on their FAQ they probably don't test with any bandlab products, since they don't list them. Most likely there's something their plugin does differently than the usual that CbB doesn't expect. But it could be a system compatibility issue instead--do they work in any of their listed hosts on your computer? https://kb.audiomodeling.com/en/c/compatibility/d/what-are-the-hostsdaws-compatible-with-swam-instruments Contact our support if your host/DAW is not listed here or if you experience some unexpected behavior. Free hosts On Windows: Camelot FREE version Cantabile Lite VSTHost SaviHost Chainer Professional Hosts/DAWs On Windows: Camelot Pro Reaper Cubase Pro Tools Vienna Ensemble Pro Ableton Live Digital Performer Bitwig Studio One Reason 9.5 FL Studio NI Komplete Kontrol GigPerformer LiveProfessor Finale Sibelius Thanks. I suppose I could try and test it on one of these. I use CW but just to test it, I guess I could try protools. Jono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono grant Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 Curious if anyone has tried Swam inside Cakewalk? I notice my CPU and disk is barely being used, yet it acts as though it's using every possible resource. Curious about midi settings that might affect it> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberwolf Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, jono grant said: Curious if anyone has tried Swam inside Cakewalk? I notice my CPU and disk is barely being used, yet it acts as though it's using every possible resource. Some OS versions don't assign programs to use all the cpu cores. If you have a lot of cores but CbB is only allowed to use one of them, or the plugin can only use one because of it's design, it might show a low overall cpu usage in the system, but still have maxed out the core it's actually on. 1 hour ago, jono grant said: Curious about midi settings that might affect it> I don't think any of the midi settings have anything to do with cpu usage control; that should be all in the OS itself. Audio settings, especially those in your audio driver itself (outside CbB) would affect CPU usage, as lower latency requires more CPU to move more chunks of data more frequently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono grant Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 What I've read is that because of it's modeling design, it's more taxing on RAM than CPU. I have 64 GB, should be enough. I tried changing page file from system managed. Maybe helped a bit. The funny thing is, the performance of SWAM doesn't really get bogged down, but accessing the midi setting etc. causes it to be very unresponsive. Extreme patience is the only thing that will allow it to run... Hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberwolf Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 10 hours ago, jono grant said: ut accessing the midi setting etc. causes it to be very unresponsive. Midi setting where? In what program or plugin? (remember that when troubleshooting problems, providing more detail, more explanation, is always better, to help those trying to help you figure out a solution...without all the info, most of what people can do is guess) If it's settings within SWAM, you'd have to talk to those developers about why that might happen to see if it's a system issue or a SWAM code issue. Edited May 30 by Amberwolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono grant Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 I was referring to launching the midi settings within SWAM. Things get shaky when SWAM is open and you are setting controls.. It all seems related to the graphics. When the SWAM interface is open, it's buggy and everything lags. I've updated my video card. Best suggestion for anyone curious, is to be very patient inside the Swam interface, slowly make your adjustments, wait for it to respond, and close the interface GUI. Once SWAM is minimized, it works as it should. I can't say I've tested too many instances inside one session but I'll report back. Incredible technology, otherwise. JG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono grant Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 *** For anyone interested, I've corrected the problem with SWAM's poor performance in Cakewalk. It was due to video card issues. The following tweaks to the video card (cakewalk only) has resolved this issue completely: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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