Pad sound hangs after stop

[Yury]

I have this problem. When I stop play, sound hangs and continue play. Normally its pad sound, but sometime its other sounds, like electric piano. In order to stop it I have to press sustain pedal. But its not always help. Then I have to turn off audio engine and turn it on again. But sometime even that does not help. So I have to close project and start it again. I had this problem for a long time and never found reason for it or solution. What I have to do in this case is freezing this track. After that I bouns it and it becomes audio track and stops giving me trouble. May be someone had this problem and knows the solution.  Any info is greatly appreciated

[Amberwolf]

For me, with synths like those made by RGC (Z3TA, etc) the problem is caused by the way the synth is designed to expect note-off events, vs the way SONAR sends them.   SONAR sends note offs as regular notes with zero velocity, but some synths don't accept that as a note-off, and expect a real actual note-off message.

THere are some other threads and posts about stuck notes that may have more details, but IIRC there is an option in newer versions of SONAR (and maybe CbB) that allows note offs to be sent in the other way, or maybe it was that the panic button can be set to send a note off message for every note rather than a global all-notes-off message (which some synths don't accept).  

 

If none of these things fix the issue for your synths, then you may need another way to send the note off messages or to stop the synth output.  

In my ancient SONAR I don't have the modern options (which is why I don't remember what they are  ) , so for Z3TA note hangs, for instance, I can toggle the built-in arp on or off and back again, and it will stop all notes. But that has to be done in each instance, so I leave the UI open almost offscreen with just the arp button edge showing.  (I could probably setup a remote control for that button but never tried).    

The thing that normally causes the stuck notes for me is that I stop playback before the end of the note on that synth.  If I stop between notes, they don't get stuck.  

 

 

 

[Amberwolf]

Oh, also, when I've got the basics of a track laid down for a synth that gets stuck notes, I do the freeze as well.  But then I clone the resulting audio track (not the midi part) to a new audio track including events and properties and effects, etc., then mute or archive the synth track.   

Then I can work with the rest of the project, and if I only need to do simple cutouts or volume changes on that synth's audio I can do that to the audio clip, and only unfreeze the synth to edit specific note changes, add controller data, bends, etc., then refreeze it.   

If I have certain edits already complete as audio edits, I can then mute the ranges of the new freeze that I've already done in the first one or that didn't change, and then mute all the ranges of the old freeze that changed in the new freeze.   (or I'll even mute the MIDI clips in the ranges of the old freeze that don't change, so they don't even generate new audio). 

 

So that's one workaround for synths that can't be arsed to shut up.  

[Promidi]

Look for a CC64 > {64 to 127) events without a corresponding CC64 > {0 to 63) Event.

[John Vere]

The clue was in the sustain pedal. 

[Ross Smithe]

Go into Preferences and make sure under Project>MIDI that the box is checked for Zero Controllers When Play Stops.