John Vere Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 It is rare but in my long life I’ve known 4 men but only 3 women called Lynn. Getting back to the issue of using screen readers I wonder how Waveform would work for you? If you activate the help widget it displays a text box that explains what you point the mouse at. I know you can’t use a mouse but it also has very good keyboard shortcuts that are super easy to customize. And it’s free for the basic version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, John Vere said: It is rare but in my long life I’ve known 4 men but only 3 women called Lynn. Getting back to the issue of using screen readers I wonder how Waveform would work for you? If you activate the help widget it displays a text box that explains what you point the mouse at. I know you can’t use a mouse but it also has very good keyboard shortcuts that are super easy to customize. And it’s free for the basic version. Are you referring to the button on each track that says, "Waveform preview"? In Caketalking, it automatically announces that, then says "Don't press this button. It will result in unpredictable results!". I'm not sure what that means exactly. I wish someone could explain. What unpredictable results is this referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57Gregy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 hours ago, Annabelle said: Are you referring to the button on each track that says, "Waveform preview"? In Caketalking, it automatically announces that, then says "Don't press this button. It will result in unpredictable results!". I'm not sure what that means exactly. I wish someone could explain. What unpredictable results is this referring to? I have never heard of any problems using Waveform Preview in Cakewalk. This feature offers up a visible approximation of the sound waves in a track while you're recording. I don't think that is something you would need or want. Maybe they mean when using Caketalking and Waveform Preview together. I think John Vere may be referring to a recording software called Waveform. This is the first I've heard of it, but it does exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptheisen Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 On 4/23/2025 at 11:11 AM, Annabelle said: I'll have to wait to buy that, as I'm having trouble with my funds right now. I know this sounds crazy, but Social Security hasn't deposited Disability benefit funds for me since November of last year, and I'm trying to get those reestablished again, which will definitely take a while. Have you tried the demo of Waves IR-1 to determine whether it will work for you? If it does, it may be the only option that has the other features you need. I've been looking deeply into convolution reverbs for my own purposes, and I haven't come across any others that are likely to meet your needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 7 hours ago, ptheisen said: Have you tried the demo of Waves IR-1 to determine whether it will work for you? If it does, it may be the only option that has the other features you need. I've been looking deeply into convolution reverbs for my own purposes, and I haven't come across any others that are likely to meet your needs. I haven't tried that yet. Is there a direct link to this plugin? Most important of all, does it have any limitations that I should know about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptheisen Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Unfortunately, there is no direct link to the plugin itself. Being a Waves product, it requires that you first set up a Waves account and install Waves Central,. Then you choose the individual plugin(s) you want to demo from there. You may need some assistance with navigating that. The instructions are here: https://www.waves.com/support/evaluate-and-demo-waves-products?_gl=1*bjp7g0*_up*MQ..*_ga*MzM5OTk1NzMyLjE3NDUyNjMyNTQ.*_ga_QGSDDSM0JK*MTc0NTY3MzgyMi41LjEuMTc0NTY3NDQ3NC4wLjAuMTg5MTQyNDgzMQ.. The only limitation imposed on the demo versions is the periodic muting of the audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 I'm trying the Waves plugins, but they're not compatible with my Windows 7 machine. I keep getting this "License Error", and I've followed their instructions to the letter about deactivating and reactivating licenses, but nothing changes. Anything that is compatible with Sonar 8.5, 64 Bit, and screenreader accessible that lets you import .wav files of impulse responses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptheisen Posted Wednesday at 12:03 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:03 PM Are you saying it doesn't work after following all the steps listed in this link? https://www.waves.com/support/how-to-run-waves-plugins-on-windows-7-and-windows-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted Wednesday at 01:17 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 01:17 PM 1 hour ago, ptheisen said: Are you saying it doesn't work after following all the steps listed in this link? https://www.waves.com/support/how-to-run-waves-plugins-on-windows-7-and-windows-8 Yes indeed I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptheisen Posted Wednesday at 09:49 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:49 PM I'm sorry to hear that. I don't have any knowledgeable explanation. Were you trying this with the demo version? If so, it is remotely possible that it would work with the purchased version, but I understand that you probably wouldn't want to risk paying for it only to discover that for whatever reason it doesn't meet your needs. You'd need to find someone with a PC running Windows 7 that is willing to test it for you. I don't have any PCs running Windows 7, but I think there are still a few people around here that do. If it is a purchased version that is not working, maybe a Waves support person can get it straightened out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted Wednesday at 10:31 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 10:31 PM 42 minutes ago, ptheisen said: I'm sorry to hear that. I don't have any knowledgeable explanation. Were you trying this with the demo version? If so, it is remotely possible that it would work with the purchased version, but I understand that you probably wouldn't want to risk paying for it only to discover that for whatever reason it doesn't meet your needs. You'd need to find someone with a PC running Windows 7 that is willing to test it for you. I don't have any PCs running Windows 7, but I think there are still a few people around here that do. If it is a purchased version that is not working, maybe a Waves support person can get it straightened out for you. I haven't purchased any licenses yet, as I don't have the funds right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted Thursday at 04:16 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:16 AM Yes I was referring to the DAW Waveform formally called Traction. It is as old as Sonar and still owned by the original developer. It has a free version. I bought the full version for only $59 on sale. It has a great tool tip function built in that is like having a teacher looking over your shoulder telling you what each feature is. If those tool tips can provide audio feedback then you should be able to navigated the software easily. It has an excellent midi interface. it is the only legitimate solution to the free version of Cakewalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted Thursday at 01:32 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 01:32 PM 9 hours ago, John Vere said: Yes I was referring to the DAW Waveform formally called Traction. It is as old as Sonar and still owned by the original developer. It has a free version. I bought the full version for only $59 on sale. It has a great tool tip function built in that is like having a teacher looking over your shoulder telling you what each feature is. If those tool tips can provide audio feedback then you should be able to navigated the software easily. It has an excellent midi interface. it is the only legitimate solution to the free version of Cakewalk. I was looking for alternatives to PerfectSpace, not Sonar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptheisen Posted Thursday at 09:29 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:29 PM The only other idea I have at the moment for a PerfectSpace alternative is Liquidsonic's Reverberate Core. It should work fine on Windows 7, there is a 64bit version, and it may work with a screen reader. It probably has all the features you need. The catch is that it is no longer sold, it is a discontinued legacy product. However, they still make it available to download at this site: https://www.liquidsonics.com/legacy-software/ It is easy to download and install, you can select the demo option to see if it will work for you. If it does work, Liquidsonics may be willing to provide you with a license for it if you contact them directly and explain the situation. I have no idea if they would do this, but it may be worth a try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted Friday at 12:13 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 12:13 PM 14 hours ago, ptheisen said: The only other idea I have at the moment for a PerfectSpace alternative is Liquidsonic's Reverberate Core. It should work fine on Windows 7, there is a 64bit version, and it may work with a screen reader. It probably has all the features you need. The catch is that it is no longer sold, it is a discontinued legacy product. However, they still make it available to download at this site: https://www.liquidsonics.com/legacy-software/ It is easy to download and install, you can select the demo option to see if it will work for you. If it does work, Liquidsonics may be willing to provide you with a license for it if you contact them directly and explain the situation. I have no idea if they would do this, but it may be worth a try. And this is a software that imports .wav files of convolution reverbs and impulse responses, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Arwood Posted Friday at 05:22 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:22 PM Best Free Convolution Reverb Plugins Convology XT by Impulse Record MConvolutionEZ Convolution by MeldaProduction Magic7 by Wave Alchemy SIR1 by SIR Audio Tools Reverberate LE by LiquidSonics Halls Of Fame 3 Free by Best Service Easy Convolver by GSi Audio Atmospheres by ZAK Sound Reverberate and a couple of these are dual engine. You should look for this. It allows you to run 2 convolutions at one time. You could run a plate and a long hall at the same time. Some allow tail control, lengthening, shorten and eq for each as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptheisen Posted Friday at 05:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:36 PM 5 hours ago, Annabelle said: And this is a software that imports .wav files of convolution reverbs and impulse responses, right? Yes, it definitely does all that PerfectSpace did and quite a bit more. It will even import the Waves .wir files that you probably downloaded when attempting to get the Waves plugin working. (If you didn't download them, I recommend that you do. Waves makes them freely available, and there are a lot of high quality impulses included.) If you decide to look into Reverberate Core, you may even want to check out Reverberate 2. It has even more features than Core and comes with more IR files. It also is a discontinued/legacy product that can be downloaded and installed as a demo just like Core. The UI is very similar to Core. When Liquidsonics came out with the current Reverberate 3, they completely changed the UI, and it is unlikely to work with a screen reader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted Friday at 06:53 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 06:53 PM 21 hours ago, ptheisen said: The only other idea I have at the moment for a PerfectSpace alternative is Liquidsonic's Reverberate Core. It should work fine on Windows 7, there is a 64bit version, and it may work with a screen reader. It probably has all the features you need. The catch is that it is no longer sold, it is a discontinued legacy product. However, they still make it available to download at this site: https://www.liquidsonics.com/legacy-software/ It is easy to download and install, you can select the demo option to see if it will work for you. If it does work, Liquidsonics may be willing to provide you with a license for it if you contact them directly and explain the situation. I have no idea if they would do this, but it may be worth a try. So far it works with JAWS, however, it actually told me the demo version expired when I haven't even started yet! But I'm excited that it works with JAWS and my Windows 7 machine! The "demo expired" error started when I scanned for new plugins in Sonar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabelle Posted Saturday at 01:02 AM Author Share Posted Saturday at 01:02 AM Liquid Sonics just gave me a trial license for Reverberate 3, which I've just activated, and so far, I loooooooooooooooooooooooove it a lot! 1. It actually works with Windows 7, JAWS, and Sonar 8.5. 2. I love the sounds of the results. 3. I love the fact that you can actually load .wav files of impulse responses! The trial license expires on the Fourth of July of all days, and I hope by then it'll still be $99.00 to purchase the full version! I'm rollin' over in buckets of joy just tryin' this out! Too bad the new version only has 64 bit VST and not an additional 32-bit VST. Sonar 8.5 Producer Edition operates both configurations, so I've put in a request for Liquid Sonics to consider that. Hopefully they fully understand my situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Arwood Posted Saturday at 06:48 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:48 AM Reverberate 3 is my favorite convolution style reverb. It’s nice that it has a lot of the biscotti reverb samples built in. The Spectrasonic Seventh Heaven plugin is only $49 it operates from convolution reverbs. You can’t load your own, but it has a tremendous amount already built in. Unlike reverberate 3, it will only load one compilation file at a time. You cannot load you own convolution files. You have to use the built in ones. Liquidsonics is definitely a pro level plugin vendor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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