Murray Webster Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Hi all, Getting unusable latency with this combo even down as far as 16 samples. Works perfectly with Band-In-A-Box. Any ideas? Thanks! M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) ook Edited February 22 by Sock Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 @Murray Webster as Latency both Audio and MIDI are a correlation between Computer power and MIDI/Audio hardware, without knowing what your computer is we cannot help. Personally I use a Focusrite Clarett Pre 8 USB and Arturia Keylab 88 Mk 1 without any latency issues. Running at 96 samples and capable of real-time recording with FX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginaldStjohn Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 The dreaded Realtek Asio driver and the Stienberg genericd ASIO drive have been known to cause these problems as well. Make sure there are no other audio drivers showing up. If there are, uninstall them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) Ook! Edited February 22 by Sock Monkey Ook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 @Sock Monkey whatever, you try running an underpowered cpu, say a two core 1,5 ghz at 96 samples. Your CPU dictates how fast it can process data, it really is that simple. But I have noted how much of an expert you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Webster Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 Sorry guys, yes...more info... AMD Ryzen 7 7700 8-Core Processor 3.80 GHz 64Gb RAM Trying to play NI Session Horns Pro or Dimension Pro through ASIO 4PRE from the Nektar USB midi and there's like an 8th note audio delay when set to 16 samples. BIAB using ASIO playing TTS-1 is fine. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 @Murray Webster, subject to being corrected by the "expert" when recording ideally you are looking to achieve something called the Total Round Trip time. Ideally that is around 10 to 12 ms as that is the average latency that is undetected by the human ear. Apparently some Sonar radar operators can detect better. A guitarist standing 10 feet from his amp experiences approximately 10 ms of latency. My question is why are you using such a low sample level. Many people achieve good results at 96, 128, 256, I suggest increasing your samples to a significantly higher figure. If you still have issues try downloading the free Resplendent LatencyMon which might help with identifying where the latency is being introduced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 It's possible for an effect plug-in to introduce excessive latency. Plug-ins inserted on buses can especially be an issue in this way. Try turning off all FX (you can easily do this by clicking the "FX" button in the Mix Module in Control Bar). If that fixes it, you can turn FX back on and either figure out which effect is introducing so much latency, or disable plug-in delay compensation by clicking the "PDC" button in the same Mix Module. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Webster Posted Wednesday at 11:16 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:16 AM On 2/24/2025 at 1:56 PM, Starship Krupa said: It's possible for an effect plug-in to introduce excessive latency. Plug-ins inserted on buses can especially be an issue in this way. Try turning off all FX (you can easily do this by clicking the "FX" button in the Mix Module in Control Bar). If that fixes it, you can turn FX back on and either figure out which effect is introducing so much latency, or disable plug-in delay compensation by clicking the "PDC" button in the same Mix Module. Thanks Erik, I think you're along the right lines there, except that I don't have any FX on those tracks or the Console channels they are routed to. Switching off all FX does work so I'll do some more experimentation when I get time! M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted Wednesday at 06:35 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:35 PM 7 hours ago, Murray Webster said: I think you're along the right lines there, except that I don't have any FX on those tracks or the Console channels they are routed to Unfortunately, the DAW has to use the "slowest common denominator" when it's doing plug-in delay compensation. It can't just delay some tracks and not others, because that would result in them being out of sync during playback. Disable your plug-ins one by one until you find the one(s) causing the delay. You may need to stop and start the transport to hear the results. Did you try disabling PDC? It only applies to playback, so you can use it during tracking to avoid that latency you're experiencing. Of course, when mixing, switch it back on or you won't be hearing what you'll actually get when you render. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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