KORG M50 VST EDITOR NOT WORKING

[Steven Gerard]

I've successfully installed the Korg M50 usb midi driver and M50 plugin editor.   It works in standalone mode but in Sonar, the vst only produces sound from the  vst keyboard, not from the physical M50 keyboard.   In both cases the meters do not respond.  The editor is a 32 bit plugin and I've tried wrapping it in Jbridge but with no success.  The fact that it works in standalone mode makes me feel the problem is with Sonar.  It doesn't work with Cbb either.   Any help would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks!

[Amberwolf]

How exactly are you using the VST?   

In which type of track? 

What type of track is feeding it, and what are that track's input settings?   

Is input monitoring enabled? 

Are the meters in the VST? '

Or are they in the track the VST is in?

Or are they on your hardware, or a bus, or ??

 

 

Edited February 10 by Amberwolf

[Promidi]

1 hour ago, Steven Gerard said:

It works in standalone mode but in Sonar, the vst only produces sound from the  vst keyboard, not from the physical M50 keyboard. 

Full screen screenshot please (not a phone photo) - including Inspector of the MIDI track that you have routed to the plugin.

[IgoRr]

2 hours ago, Steven Gerard said:

The editor is a 32 bit plugin and I've tried wrapping it in Jbridge but with no success. 

When working in Sonar or Cakewalk, you do not need any additional JBridges, the products of this company have long been built-in native BitBridge utilite for working with 32-bit plugins and instruments, they work automatically without the need for any actions. Using any third-party utilities can only harm the regular operation of the entire system.

You need to check in "Preferences" in the "MIDI - Devices - Inputs" section, your instrument is Korg M-50, if there is no checkmark in the checkbox, you need to put it.

[Sock Monkey]

This is a device from 2008. So I would think that like the software that came with my Lexicon effects rack mount unit  it stopped working mid W7 years. 
Anything 32 bit is usually doomed to failure these days. 

[IgoRr]

5 hours ago, Sock Monkey said:

Anything 32 bit is usually doomed to failure these days.

It is unlikely that this is the real reason for such failures, I still use a very old Cakewalk Perfect Space 32-bit reverb, and it works great under any system - it worked in Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and perfectly works in Windows 10. I think that the issue is not in the age of the software, but in the features of almost everything from a specific company Rolland, including not very old sound cards like Quad/Octa Capture or Rubix, whose drivers very often work unstably and crash.

[Steven Gerard]

23 hours ago, Amberwolf said:

How exactly are you using the VST?   

Selecting from vst instruments 

In which type of track? 

Instrument track

What type of track is feeding it, and what are that track's input settings?   

Feeding it?  

Is input monitoring enabled? 

Yes

Are the meters in the VST? '

No, Sonar's meters in track view.

Or are they in the track the VST is in?

Yes

Or are they on your hardware, or a bus, or ??

 

 

 

[Steven Gerard]

22 hours ago, IgoRr said:

When working in Sonar or Cakewalk, you do not need any additional JBridges, the products of this company have long been built-in native BitBridge utilite for working with 32-bit plugins and instruments, they work automatically without the need for any actions. Using any third-party utilities can only harm the regular operation of the entire system.

You need to check in "Preferences" in the "MIDI - Devices - Inputs" section, your instrument is Korg M-50, if there is no checkmark in the checkbox, you need to put it.

I've tried without jbridge, not working. 

M50 is checked in midi devices.

[Steven Gerard]

20 hours ago, Sock Monkey said:

This is a device from 2008. So I would think that like the software that came with my Lexicon effects rack mount unit  it stopped working mid W7 years. 
Anything 32 bit is usually doomed to failure these days. 

Agreed. 

[Steven Gerard]

23 hours ago, Promidi said:

Full screen screenshot please (not a phone photo) - including Inspector of the MIDI track that you have routed to the plugin.

 

[Sock Monkey]

I misunderstood what you were using. 
So the editor is actually a VST plugin that can produce sound? I thought it was just for editing the hardware keyboard. 

So the problem is that the Korg keyboard is not inputting or receiving data. Is this done with USB connections and the Korg driver is showing in device manager?  It seems that this might be the problem if it isn’t. 
If so then did you select it in Preferences midi devices?  

[Promidi]

Can we please have a screenshot of your Preferences - MIDI - Devices screen.

[Steven Gerard]

35 minutes ago, Sock Monkey said:

I misunderstood what you were using. 
So the editor is actually a VST plugin that can produce sound? I thought it was just for editing the hardware keyboard. 

So the problem is that the Korg keyboard is not inputting or receiving data. Is this done with USB connections and the Korg driver is showing in device manager?  It seems that this might be the problem if it isn’t. 
If so then did you select it in Preferences midi devices?  

You control the keyboard through the vst.  It does play with its own on screen keyboard.  In midi devices the M50 is selected.  The Korg driver is in device manager.

 

[Steven Gerard]

19 minutes ago, Promidi said:

Can we please have a screenshot of your Preferences - MIDI - Devices screen.

 

[Sock Monkey]

Ok so that all looks like by rights you should hear the VST instruments respond to the keyboard. 
As you said it plays the Korg VST in stand alone mode so all that is working. 
What happens if you insert a different instrument? 
And possibly try changing from Omni to select the Korg as the input device. It should not matter but worth a shot. 

Edited February 12 by Sock Monkey

[Promidi]

On the M50 Editor MIDI track, can you expand the input (where is says “OMNI”).

Personally, I would set this specifically to the M50 1 Keyboard

Are you absolutely sure that the actual sound is coming from the VST itself, not the M50 itself.

[Steven Gerard]

19 minutes ago, Sock Monkey said:

Ok so that all looks like by rights you should hear the VST instruments respond to the keyboard. 
As you said it plays the Korg VST in stand alone mode so all that is working. 
What happens if you insert a different instrument? 
And possibly try changing from Omni to select the Korg as the input device. It should not matter but worth a shot. 

Different instruments all function normally.  I've tried every input device that's available, same result.

[Steven Gerard]

15 minutes ago, Promidi said:

On the M50 Editor MIDI track, can you expand the input (where is says “OMNI”).

Personally, I would set this specifically to the M50 1 Keyboard

Are you absolutely sure that the actual sound is coming from the VST itself, not the M50 itself.

I've tried every input available including the m50, no luck.  The sound could be coming from the m50 but it's not getting to Sonar as the meters aren't moving so if I try to record, I get nothing, obviously. 

[Promidi]

2 minutes ago, Steven Gerard said:

I've tried every input available including the m50, no luck.  The sound could be coming from the m50 but it's not getting to Sonar as the meters aren't moving so if I try to record, I get nothing, obviously. 

And when you record into the SIT track, you get no MIDI events therein, is that correct.

Also, if the sound is coming from the m50, and you want that going to Cakewalk, you would have to connect an audio cable from the M50 to an audio input of your Focusrite.  Then create an Audio track, into which you can record to.

On the M50 editor screen in (Cakewalk), what do you see if you click “Global” (or even “Utility”).  Any where to select MIDI ports?

[Steven Gerard]

21 minutes ago, Promidi said:

And when you record into the SIT track, you get no MIDI events therein, is that correct.

Also, if the sound is coming from the m50, and you want that going to Cakewalk, you would have to connect an audio cable from the M50 to an audio input of your Focusrite.  Then create an Audio track, into which you can record to.

On the M50 editor screen in (Cakewalk), what do you see if you click “Global” (or even “Utility”).  Any where to select MIDI ports?

No midi events.   Yes, I understand about the audio connection and i do have the m50 connected to my interface but the way the editor is supposed to work is to create an instance of the editor then create a midi track with the m50 as input and editor as output.  You would select the sound you want from the editor which will reflect in the m50.  The global midi settings in the on screen editor are midi in: m50 keyboard, midi out; m50 sound.  

Edited February 12 by Steven Gerard