Pora Pora Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Hello! Having an issue with Vintage Drum Elements plugin. Both instances were working fine for my Snare Claps and my Main Drums tracks. However, I was messing with automating a fade at the end and now the Main Drums won't play at all. It appears to have basically all the same settings as the Snare track. I tried both removing and disabling the automation, making it all one volume, switching to a different automation, switching to TTS-1....just doesn't seem to want to play sound on playback for that track anymore. The plugin itself I can manually press pads and it will play. And like I said the Snare track works fine. It's on Vintage Drum Elements Plugin 1 on the synth rack and Main Drums is on Vintage Drum Elements Plugin 2. I even deleted and made a new plugin instance and called it 2. No dice. Notes are properly mapped when i open piano roll view too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 What happens if you set the MIDI track to a MIDI Channel rather than "none" Note: In any of my projects, any MIDI track or SIT always has their MIDI channel setting changed from the default “None” to a specific MIDI channel. Usually Channel 1 for a mono timbral synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pora Pora Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 51 minutes ago, Promidi said: What happens if you set the MIDI track to a MIDI Channel rather than "none" Note: In any of my projects, any MIDI track or SIT always has their MIDI channel setting changed from the default “None” to a specific MIDI channel. Usually Channel 1 for a mono timbral synth. I have cycled through changing the channel from like 1 through 9 at least. Doesn't seem to make a difference. Also that's the Snare one that is unset/no input echo enabled. This is quite a puzzler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 11 minutes ago, DipDapaLoop said: I have cycled through changing the channel from like 1 through 9 at least. Doesn't seem to make a difference. Also that's the Snare one that is unset/no input echo enabled. This is quite a puzzler! Being a drum, try 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pora Pora Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 Hmm just tried 10-16, no dice there either. Omni doesn't seem to work either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I do not have this plugin so I cannot check. However, maybe it does not respond to MIDI CC information (especially CC7 for volume). In that case, maybe you will want to automate the volume of the plugins's audio output instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pora Pora Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 Like this, on the synth output track itself? Doesn't seem to do anything. I have the volume pretty cranked too. It's a pretty simple plugin from the looks of it, here's the basic doc: https://www.samplescience.info/2024/10/vintage-drum-elements.html Nothing crazy going on in the event lists either: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 That automation lane looks like it should work. That image is not showing me a ramp down shape. What happens if you add another node further down and then move that node to zero (thus creating a down ramp)? Another option, if the plugin responds to velocity, you could always simple edit the note velocities using the PRV Transform Tool to reduce the velocities of the notes with each subsequent hit. You have to be careful with this though, because with some synths, velocity can affect more than simple volume. There are actually many ways to achieve a fade out of a sound in Cakewalk. I had needed a fade out on many instruments or sounds in many projects and I have never had any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pora Pora Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 The ramp down is way further down at the end of the song. Seems regardless of whether I set the volume to the same level or completely remove the automation, the Main Drums track won't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Monkey Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) ook Edited 36 minutes ago by Sock Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pora Pora Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 I took those CC events out just before for debugging, my bad. The fader slide doesn't budge at all. Right, I wasn't trying to do individually, I just made patterns in step sequencer. I made sure to play with the volume too in the step sequencer to make sure it wasn't that. What solved it for now was just making an entirely new MIDI and Source tracks. In which case it could still either be a bug with Cakewalk or a bug with how the plugin was built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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