I would like to use my roland fp30 digital piano as input via usb cable

[Kikka Pepper]

Hello everyone. I am completely new to all this so please be kind.
I would just like to record songs that I play on the piano and edit them slightly.
I have previously recorded songs via bandlab using the same cable. On bandlab, the pc detects the piano without any problems. The pc also detects the piano however Cakewalk does not detect it as input. What am I doing wrong? What should I do?

 

Thanks

[Promidi]

2 minutes ago, Kikka Pepper said:

Hello everyone. I am completely new to all this so please be kind.
I would just like to record songs that I play on the piano and edit them slightly.
I have previously recorded songs via bandlab using the same cable. On bandlab, the pc detects the piano without any problems. The pc also detects the piano however Cakewalk does not detect it as input. What am I doing wrong? What should I do?

Can it be assumed that you now wish to use Cakewalk by Bandlab.

Does the MIDI port that the fp30 is connected to show up in Preferences - MIDI - Devices?  If it does, is it selected.

Also, what do you intend to use as a the sound source for your sounds?

If you wish to use the fp30, then you will have to route the signal from the fp30 via an audio cable from the fp30 to an input of your audio interface.

You can also a software synth as the sound source.  S1-Electric Piano comes to mind.

[Kikka Pepper]

14 minutes ago, Promidi said:

Can it be assumed that you now wish to use Cakewalk by Bandlab.

Does the MIDI port that the fp30 is connected to show up in Preferences - MIDI - Devices?  If it does, is it selected.

Also, what do you intend to use as a the sound source for your sounds?

If you wish to use the fp30, then you will have to route the signal from the fp30 via an audio cable from the fp30 to an input of your audio interface.

You can also a software synth as the sound source.  S1-Electric Piano comes to mind.

Thanks for your answer.

It does not appear in Preferences - MIDI - Devices.
I would like to use a speaker connected with minijack as an audio source.

So, with just a USB cable it's not possible for Cakewalk to detect it as input right? You need an audio cable like XLR right?
If so, I was reading on the Roland website (https://support.roland.com/hc/en-us/articles/19967079596699-FP-30-How-do-I-connect-the-FP-30-with-a-cable-to-an-instrument-or-sound-module-that-has-only-5-pin-MIDI-DIN-connectors) that a MIDI host box is needed?
Sorry but I am ignorant in this area and am trying to figure it out.
Anyway, I don't have an audio interface other than the one built into the pc which is supposed to be NVIDIA.

[Promidi]

I just downloaded the user guide for the FP30 and it does look like it can use USB connectivity.

I am not sure why the FP80 is not showing up in Preferences - MIDI - Devices.  If the drivers are installed properly, then it should be present.  I am assuming you have installed the latest drivers.

What operating system are you running?

I also recommend having on your agenda the purchase of a quality audio interface that comes with native ASIO drivers.  This is because any built in, or on board, sound devices are not really designed for professional use and will likely result in some disappointment.

[David Baay]

Go to Device Manager and confirm you see the MIDI ports appearing disappearing from the Software Devices section when you connect/disconnect the FP-30 with the power on or when you power it on/off. If windows doesn't see them, the DAW won't, either. I don't think the FP-30 needs drivers for the USB-MIDI ports to work. It just needs to be powered up. Try a different USB port if available, and try booting your PC with the FP-30 already powered up or vice versa - powering up after booting.

Edited January 29 by David Baay

[Sock Monkey]

Roland now is instructing users on their web site to use the driver supplied by Windows. It is questionable whether this is the same driver that you will find on the Roland website. 
So my self I always go to the download page on the Roland site and see if my keyboard or ? Is listed and has a link to the midi driver. 
 

Install the driver and then connect the USB cable

Open Preferences/ Midi/ Devices and the Roland should be listed. 
If it isn’t then as David says above open device manager and see if it is listed. Open 
Sound video and game controller 

I’ll add that there is a not so common problem with USB ports exceeding a certain limit of devices that can cause a new device to not install properly. 

To check open the views/ show hidden devices. 
You might have to delete unnecessary devices to clean it up. 
 

It is important that you get the device to show here first. 
 

It does appear that this not only has USB midi but Audio as well so it is also an audio interface. It also appears to have Bluetooth midi 

Edited January 29 by Sock Monkey

[Kurre]

21 hours ago, Kikka Pepper said:

Thanks for your answer.

It does not appear in Preferences - MIDI - Devices.
I would like to use a speaker connected with minijack as an audio source.

So, with just a USB cable it's not possible for Cakewalk to detect it as input right? .....NO
Anyway, I don't have an audio interface other than the one built into the pc which is supposed to be NVIDIA.

The description says it has an earphone output. I would get a cable that fits between this and the microphone input on the pc. I think the audio level would work.

[Sock Monkey]

9 hours ago, Kurre said:

The description says it has an earphone output. I would get a cable that fits between this and the microphone input on the pc. I think the audio level would work.

Why would you do that? As I said it has a ASIO driven audio interface built in. It's a simple matter of reading the manual which explains all the options. Roland is a pretty experienced company as far as Midi and Audio computer systems go. 

It seems to have an All in one installer package found here. This will be important to make things work as expected. 

https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/fp-30/updates_drivers/

 

Edited January 30 by Sock Monkey

[ptheisen]

I have had an FP-30 since about the time they came first came out. I have successfully used it as a USB MIDI input with a number of DAWs, including SONAR/CbB/Sonar (beta) the entire time.

The file in the link provided above is the latest firmware update for the FP-30, it is not a MIDI or audio driver because the FP-30 has neither of those.

The FP-30 is a generic USB MIDI device. After connecting the proper USB cable between the FP-30 type B port labeled "USB COMPUTER" (not the type A port labeled "USB MEMORY") and a USB port on the computer, as long as the computer's operating system detects it, the FP-30 should simply work with any DAW or other MIDI software application. Maybe the OP is using a USB cable with type A on both ends and connecting to the wrong port on the FP-30, that could explain some of the symptoms.

The FP-30 does not have a USB audio interface built in.  To hear audio from the FP-30 you must connect an audio cable using one of the FP-30's headphone jacks. If this audio cable is connected to a microphone input, you would probably have to turn the sensitivity of that input way down because the level of a headphone output is much higher than microphone level, it is closer to line level, and thus a line level input would be preferred if available. (Note that the newer model FP-30X added the audio interface via USB, which would definitely add the option to hear the audio directly through USB.)

As for the FP-30 manual, it has very little information about connecting it to a computer,  this is all it says:

If you use a commercially available USB cable to connect the FP-30's USB COMPUTER port to your computer's USB port, you'll be able to do the following things:

SMF data played back by MIDI-compatible software can be sounded by the FP-30.

MIDI data can be transferred between the FP-30 and your DAW software, opening up a wide range of possibilities for music production and editing.

Since it is a generic USB MIDI device and nothing more, I guess further explanation is not really necessary. I know that everything works as described for me.

Hope this information, along with what others have provided, helps you get things sorted out.

[Kurre]

2 hours ago, Sock Monkey said:

Why would you do that? As I said it has a ASIO driven audio interface built in. It's a simple matter of reading the manual which explains all the options. Roland is a pretty experienced company as far as Midi and Audio computer systems go. 

It seems to have an All in one installer package found here. This will be important to make things work as expected. 

https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/fp-30/updates_drivers/

 

I expect an apology from you.

As ptheisen proved, you complained about me when in fact it was me that talked about the right FP30.

[David Baay]

16 minutes ago, Kurre said:

I expect an apology from you.

As ptheisen proved, you complained about me when in fact it was me that talked about the right FP30.

Your understanding of the issue is faulty.  The issue is not with audio output; it's with MIDI input. Sock Monkey's understanding of the FP-30 and the need for a driver to be installed was also faulty, but he was not wrong in pointing out that your suggestion was irrelevant to getting MIDI input to work.

[Sock Monkey]

5 hours ago, Kurre said:

I expect an apology from you.

As ptheisen proved, you complained about me when in fact it was me that talked about the right FP30.

I will sort of apologize but that information I got from the Roland website! I Went there, read the product page and the took the time to find the driver. So what you’re saying is that there’s 2 completely different Roland keyboards with the same model number? Or is Roland web site wrong?
If you follow the link I posted it is for a driver for the fp-30

I was only trying to help. Lord know why? 

Edited January 31 by Sock Monkey

[ptheisen]

There is the older FP-30 (without USB audio) and the newer FP-30X (with USB audio). At this point, we may not be certain which model the OP has.

The link that was posted is for the FP-30 and it is a firmware update, not a driver.

[Sock Monkey]

That explains it. Thanks.