I want to control the overall volume of separate drum tracks. How?

[tdehan]

I have a project I've been working on where the drums are all on separate tracks.  I would like the ability to control the overall drum volume without having to adjust the slider on each separate drum track.  How can I achieve this?

Thanks!

[tdehan]

Each drum is on a separate track as I mentioned.  Yes, each TTS-1 drum is on MIDI channel 10.  However, when I move the slider for any one of the drum tracks, only that track is affected by the volume change.  I would have to adjust each individual slider for each drum part which is not what I wanted to do.

The work around that I mentioned was to BOUNCE all the separate MIDI drum tracks to one track (.wav).  Though not ideal, this is the only way I could find to achieve a global volume change for all the drums collectively.  If I adjust the channel that Cakewalk TTS-1 is on, then other instruments besides the drums that are also using TTS-1 are affected.

[David Baay]

39 minutes ago, tdehan said:

However, when I move the slider for any one of the drum tracks, only that track is affected by the volume change

Try moving a Volume control all the way to 0 during playback. If your setup is as described, I guarantee all the drums will be silenced, and if you look at the fader for the drum channel in the TTS1 UI, it will be all the way down. If that track is not the last one, the volume will come back up to the level of the last track when you restart playback

[Sock Monkey]

What is to understand is that if those are midi tracks the level control is not an audio control but a Midi CC7 volume event adjustment for the channel that it is assigned to. 
So you cannot adjust each track separately if they are all using the same midi channel and are assigned to the same instrument. 
Each track would need to be on a different channel and using the track header you would enter the bank and patch to choose the correct instrument which is probably the standard kit. 
If I still had the TTS-1 I could post a screenshot. But I don’t. 
Really this would be much easier if you used Session Drums or the SI kit which have level control for each kit piece. 
Otherwise use velocity. 
 

Edited 2 hours ago by Sock Monkey

[tdehan]

1 hour ago, David Baay said:

Try moving a Volume control all the way to 0 during playback. If your setup is as described, I guarantee all the drums will be silenced, and if you look at the fader for the drum channel in the TTS1 UI, it will be all the way down. If that track is not the last one, the volume will come back up to the level of the last track when you restart playback

Bingo!  That's it!  I was not listening when I moved the individual sliders.  I just saw that all the sliders were not moving together.  Thanks!

Edited 1 hour ago by tdehan

[Amberwolf]

3 hours ago, tdehan said:

Each drum is on a separate track as I mentioned. 

Separate MIDI track, or separate audio track?

Separate instances of TTS1, or just the one?

Both of those are crucial bits of info to know how you have it setup, so that correct advice can easily be given without "random" advices that "eventually" hit the right answer.

Each way you could have it setup has different answers to how to do what you want to do, that don't apply to the other ways. 

 

Knowing your complete setup of how your instruments and tracks are routed is often key to someone being able to help you with a particular problem (especially things like the topic of this thread). 

 

3 hours ago, tdehan said:

  If I adjust the channel that Cakewalk TTS-1 is on, then other instruments besides the drums that are also using TTS-1 are affected.

If you want completely separate control of every sound, you'll need to use separate instances of your synth(s), each with it's own audio and midi tracks.

If you use just a single instance of a single synth for every sound, then there are things you can't control or do individually.

Some synths have multiple audio outs that you can assign to different instruments, but most don't.  Someone above said TTS1 has four, so you setup separate audio tracks for each of those four, and then setup TTS1 internally so the instruments you want grouped together are all sent to the same one of those four, and all the ones you want separate are on each of the other three. 

If you need more than four you would have to use a second instance of TTS1 and route your midi tracks for those to that one. 

 

Edited 14 minutes ago by Amberwolf

[tdehan]

I believe I've already answered that a couple times.  With that said... this issue is now solved...  as I mentioned.

[Amberwolf]

5 minutes ago, tdehan said:

I believe I've already answered that a couple times.  With that said... this issue is now solved...  as I mentioned.

I'm glad it's solved, but despite saying that you had them on separate tracks, you didn't specify which kind of track (audio or midi), or whether you have separate instances of TTS1 or just a single one, etc.  

...something you should keep in mind for future troubleshooting sessions that will help people help you faster and more accurately with less wasted time on all sides.  

[tdehan]

I thought I did!  I said it as ttS=1... that's MIDI right?