ToneDeF Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 (edited) On 1/17/2025 at 9:52 PM, Andrew Aversa said: We do this! We have automatic 'complete my bundle' logic; if you are logged in and add a bundle to your cart that you already own a component of, you'll get a proportional discount. But also, we have a Personalized Deals section which allows you to effectively create your own bundle with an increasing, scaling discount, that is further tailored based on # of products owned (including related products), kinda like Fabfilter. Yes, I can confirm from personal experience that Impact Soundworks is indeed one of the vendors who generously offers loyalty discounts for the products they sell, just as you described, along with a points loyalty program to earn discounts and free product. There are quite a few vendors who fall into the "et al." part of the list I initially provided. The few vendors I name-dropped were just a small number who quickly came to mind; looking back, I probably should not have name-dropped any, as my intention was to be objective and not to give any impression of favoritism. Edited January 19 by ToneDeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneDeF Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 On 1/17/2025 at 3:34 PM, IK Multimedia said: ... have gone to the mat for some nice changes (like the elimination of the sound reactivation period/fees ...). We're not all the way there for everything but progress has been made. I'd like to personally thank you and your colleagues who advocated for us customers to get rid of IK Multimedia's sound reactivation period/fees; I really abhorred that practice and was quite chuffed to see its demise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/16/2025 at 2:41 AM, MusicMan said: Waves looks after you by offering cheap discounts on the bundles until you upgrade to the largest ones and then you're locked in to paying the max WUP I believe, as you can't WUP the individual plugins, only the total bundle. Someone can probably jump in and correct me if that's not right. So if that's the case, they're probably still better than IK, UA, Softube, etc. in that regard, but leave lot to be improved.. that and they gave everyone with perpetual licenses the middle finger by trying to go subscription only, which meant that users who didn't pay an ongoing fee would never be able to WUP again.. Glad that play crashed and burned 🤣 I still haven't gotten over that one. Maybe one day I'll make peace with them again, but as for now they are definitely on the "No-Fly" list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 7 hours ago, jude77 said: I still haven't gotten over that one. Maybe one day I'll make peace with them again, but as for now they are definitely on the "No-Fly" list. Yep, it's the worst I've seen in the audio plugins industry ever. Even if other companies went subscription only, it wouldn't be so bad, as you would likely have free compatibility updates for a while and things would keep working. Waves knew that their plugins would break for many, that they wouldn't provide any free updates once your current WUP expired and would've left those users with no alternatives but to subscribe, or not use their plugins they already paid for. Total disregard towards their customers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) On 1/19/2025 at 5:01 AM, ToneDeF said: I'd like to personally thank you and your colleagues who advocated for us customers to get rid of IK Multimedia's sound reactivation period/fees; I really abhorred that practice and was quite chuffed to see its demise. That was a huge step in the right direction. It was definitely a blocker for more sales too and it's easier to recommend IKM more now after that. The lack of proper upgrades is probably IK's biggest downside currently for me. Their installer could use some work as well, but it mostly works. Everyone always hates and freaks out about the T Racks processors being installed that they don't own, but I seem to be one of the few people that didn't mind that.. it was easy to randomly drop into one of those plugins and check them out whenever. Caveat being disk space and plugin versions. As long as they don't use a lot of extra space, or force you to install VST2 and AAX and leading to even longer scan times again (Softube = epic fail there), then it's not too bad. I'd never buy Volume from Softube, apart from them not recognising that I already own so much of the bundle, but also because they would waste at least 10GB of disk space by installing VST2 and AAX for everything in the bundle, without a way to opt out. Edited January 19 by MusicMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneDeF Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 21 hours ago, MusicMan said: Yep, it's the worst I've seen in the audio plugins industry ever. Even if other companies went subscription only, it wouldn't be so bad, as you would likely have free compatibility updates for a while and things would keep working. Waves knew that their plugins would break for many, that they wouldn't provide any free updates once your current WUP expired and would've left those users with no alternatives but to subscribe, or not use their plugins they already paid for. Total disregard towards their customers. I am only now realizing the rope-a-dope of owning a Waves bundle versus the individual plugins that comprise the bundle. Also, it looks like there is no way to install just individual plugins of a Waves bundle from within the Waves Central application. If you do not have enough disk space, then the bundle is unusable. 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneDeF Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 (edited) It has been three days since the support representative accepted my thanks for sharing my feedback with the team, and the vendor has not yet reached out to me, so I can only conclude that the vendor is NOT interested in treating existing customers better than brand new customers, any time soon. By the way, the sale price for that product bundle has since GONE UP in price by another $20 USD, despite being advertised as a 93% discount off of the regular retail price; most folks in their right mind would not pay the full bundle price. Edited January 21 by ToneDeF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneDeF Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 The vendor is now currently having a sale on a bundle of just the version 2 presets that I wanted to complete my collection. This more concise bundle is being offered for the exact same price as the last bundle, and you get less product for your money than you did with the previous bundle that was on sale (i.e., in addition to the version 2 presets, the previous bundle that was on sale also included the main product and all of the presets for version 1 of the product). Apparently, there is a price point that the vendor is unwilling to drop below for bundles of this particular product. Once again, there is no extra loyalty discount for existing customers. To recap: the sale price is the same for everyone, and it is the same price for a bundle of lesser value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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