Feature Request: "Unquantize" or "Reset Quantize button"

[Jaime Ramírez]

Hi Bakers, Hi People

      A little request is an "Unquantize" or "Reset Quantize" button. Improve the workflow when you are working with the "input quantize" midi recording function. Can be perfect, to "unquantize" a little part and no the entire section (making the undo that reset the quantization, BTW if you make other thing after the midi recording, you cannot reset the quantize with the undo after the input quantize record). Can be good hace this feature.

 

 Thanks

 

Jaime

 

[Sock Monkey]

It seems to me that your request would be impossible. A Daw will record the midi data as it is received. Adding a filter that alters the data is destructive and therefore cannot be undone.

Don’t use the input quantize. Leave it off and then you have the original data with options to manipulate it and undo changes you don’t like. You can even copy the data and have a backup track in case you loose the ability to undo at a later date. 
 

I have used quantize a thousands of times and I always have to try different settings before it gets it right. And all it takes is a couple of triplets to mess things up. 

[Amberwolf]

I don't know that there's a "good" way to implement undoable input-quantize, because it is altering the data *before* the clips are created, so the clips don't have the unquantized data--that is gone.   It would require storing all of that track's original input as well as the IQ'd input.  The "easy" way to implement the undo would affect everything on the track--it would unquantize all clips on that whole track, which you probably wouldn't want. It would be possible to store the data per-clip, but is likely a lot more complex to program.

 

Assuming the feature doesn't get implemented (or at least until it does, if it does), you could use one of these (or other) options:

The following "solution" doesn't have all the qualities that IQ does, but it would at least let you undo.   It doesn't alter the way the data is displayed on the track, so if you need that, this won't help--it only affects the way the data is sent to it's destination:

Instead of IQ, use the Quantize MFX per-clip, in the clip FX bin of each clip, so that you can keep altering the quantize properties as needed, or disable it entirely, toggle it on/off, etc.,  and have the clips that need it using it, and the clips that don't left alone.   (or use it in the track FX bin if you want the same settings on the whole thing, but IIRC you can't alter, apply or undo just part of it that way).  If you use it per-clip, you can apply the FX to permanently alter it and have it display as quantized for stuff you're sure of.

 

The following alternate "solution" does have the qualities of IQ (except it's not automatic), and lets you undo, and it does alter the way the data is displayed on the track:    

Record normally without IQ, then copy the results to a muted or archived track.  Then quantize the original as needed, and if you need to undo, that is still in the other track.   

 

There are probably other ways to do this, too, but those are both ways I've used.

 

[Jaime Ramírez]

@Amberwolf @Sock Monkey 

 

Hi, I can do this in Cubase,  Studio One and Reaper. Have this feature. Is nice and a workflow that save time. I can quantize all and unquantize the notes that i want intead of verifing all an quantize what i want.

 

I just produce and work in diferent daws and thiers different perspective and that is something cool to have in Sonar.

Happy Holidays

Jaime

[Jesse Jost]

On 12/15/2024 at 5:29 AM, Jaime Ramírez said:

A little request is an "Unquantize" or "Reset Quantize" button. Improve the workflow when you are working with the "input quantize" midi recording function.

Thanks for the request @Jaime Ramírez! Let's see if I got this right: you want to restore some notes of a MIDI clip, usually from a MIDI recording pass, to their original, natural version. Would you also find it useful to select a region of notes and apply a "humanize" command to softly randomize start times and duration? Which of the two is preferable?