Recording on 18i8 3rd gen. Mixing different tracks correctly.

[Fodiddle]

hi.

i'm using a cakewalk session of my own and have multiple tracks recorded. Bass, rhythm guitar, along with 2 different ambient sound tracks. I'm attempting to lay down a leads guitar track but i have a problem. I have the guitar going to input 1 on the 18i8, bass input 2 etc. However i'm running my guitar thru a modeler pedal(valeton gp-200)before hitting 18i8's input 1. Bypassing effects in cakewalk.
The master volume on the modeler is set to middle, as is the independent guitar set to middle.

Cakewalk levels are master 0 - while lead guitar track is set to -6, defaults i believe. Guitar is barely audible. Meanwhile my monitors are very loud. And cakewalk playback is low.  I have gone back and turned up the track in cakewalk all the way, it helps but not enough. What am i missing?

Thanks!

[Michael Elliott]

Does the recorded waveform in CW appear normal, at a sufficient volume level? 

Do all the other tracks sound loud enough?  

f you have two different outputs from the device (either the modeler or the 18i8), one into CW and one direct from the leads guitar into your monitors, you might need to turn down the direct out, or turn up the one that goes into CW, if the recorded waveform is too low.   

 

[Fodiddle]

On this particular track the waveform isn't even showing up. Tho i can hear the instrument. It's quiet. So weird. The issue is when i have everything leveled off correctly the guitar track is too quiet while everything else is too loud coming from my monitors.

[Michael Elliott]

12 hours ago, Fodiddle said:

On this particular track the waveform isn't even showing up.

Do you mean there is no audio clip in the track?  (in this case, you would have to have the audio clip in some other track; if it doesn't exist you wouldn't hear it.  you could find whcih track it's actually on by soloing each one in turn)   If the clip is on the wrong track, and that track is turned down, then volume will be lower than you expect. Moving the clip to the right track should then fix it.

 

Or is there an audio clip with no waveform at all in it?  (in which case you can clear your picture cache and reload the project, or open the properties for that clip, and "rebuild waveforms"). rebuilding the waveform display won't change anything about the actual audio or volume, but it lets you see what's there.

 

Or is there an audio clip with a waveform that is just very very low volume?  (you can maximize that track, then expand the waveform vertically by clicking and dragging upward on the dB scale at the edge of the clips pane for that track, until you can see what waveform there is, if there is any).  If it's very low volume, then you can either re-record it at a higher volume, or you can turn up the track gain and/or output volume, or add a clip gain envelope to the clip itself and increase the clip's gain.

 

 

12 hours ago, Fodiddle said:

Tho i can hear the instrument. It's quiet. So weird. The issue is when i have everything leveled off correctly the guitar track is too quiet while everything else is too loud coming from my monitors.

So, to be exact, does this mean that all other tracks are normal, but the guitar track is not?  Exact descriptions are helpful.

If all other tracks are too loud, then you either have to turn your monitors (or audio device output knob) down, or you have to turn the other tracks down, or you have to turn the bus all those other tracks are routed to down.

 

 

Edited October 30 by Amberwolf