Can I see the Drum Map notes while editing another (bass) midi track?

[Roy Slough]

When I am editing midi Bass lines (maybe other instruments also) it would help if I could see the drum pattens I have in the drum map area.
Only once, and I do not know how I achieved this, I could see the Kick, snare etc.  showing in the top section of the piano roll view.
Now every time I select the Bass Midi Track the Drum info disappears. (see attachment which shows the drum info)

I have experimented with filters but this did not work (not sure what filters do anyway)

Any advice would help me keep my bass notes with the Kick and snare.

Thanks

[Amberwolf]

You can view multiple tracks in PRV in at least two ways.

If you are in track view, and select multiple tracks, then open PRV either from the main View menu or from the track context menu, all those tracks will be open in PRV.   On the right side you will see each listed, where you can choose to hide or view each one, or mute/solo them to see but not hear, etc. 

If you are already in PRV, you can go to the Tracks dropdown button to select which track(s) you're looking at.  Usually Ctrl-clicking on tracks adds them to the existing selection. 

[David Baay]

I agree, just remove the drum map assignment and do it all in the PRV with both tracks showing.  For a simple drum pattern like that, it's generally  pretty obvious which rows are kicks and snares without having the drum map labels.

Alternatively, you could copy the drums to a lane of the Bass track, mute the clips, and disable Hide Muted Clips in the PRV View menu. This will give you grayed-out drum notes in the Bass track as a timing reference.

Or, better yet, play it all in live from a MIDI keyboard to get a natural interplay of drum and bass rhythms. ;^)  Time spent learning to play in real time is more productive, more fun and yields better-sounding music than drawing notes with a mouse. 

[Roy Slough]

On 10/22/2024 at 6:17 PM, David Baay said:

I agree, just remove the drum map assignment and do it all in the PRV with both tracks showing.  For a simple drum pattern like that, it's generally  pretty obvious which rows are kicks and snares without having the drum map labels.

Alternatively, you could copy the drums to a lane of the Bass track, mute the clips, and disable Hide Muted Clips in the PRV View menu. This will give you grayed-out drum notes in the Bass track as a timing reference.

Or, better yet, play it all in live from a MIDI keyboard to get a natural interplay of drum and bass rhythms. ;^)  Time spent learning to play in real time is more productive, more fun and yields better-sounding music than drawing notes with a mouse. 

Yes it appears the Drum Map is the thing preventing me seeing the notes. Easiest way is to remove the drum map and add it back later (If needed again)
I still cannot see why once it did leave the Drum mapped notes visible, but I will be more observant and if I discover the situation I will report back.

Thanks again 

[David Baay]

4 hours ago, Roy Slough said:

still cannot see why once it did leave the Drum mapped notes visible

It's possible to see notes in both the drum and notes panes simultaneously, but only while the drum track has focus in the PRV. As soon as you focus something in the Notes pane to edit it, the drum pane will go blank because the PRV is using the output assignment of the focused track to determine where to send the auditioning output. I suppose the developers could jump through some hoops to preserve the visual display of the drum map in this scenario; it just wasn't in the design requirements and probalby wasn't noticed or realized that this might be useful.

[Roy Slough]

On 10/25/2024 at 5:19 PM, David Baay said:

It's possible to see notes in both the drum and notes panes simultaneously, but only while the drum track has focus in the PRV. As soon as you focus something in the Notes pane to edit it, the drum pane will go blank because the PRV is using the output assignment of the focused track to determine where to send the auditioning output. I suppose the developers could jump through some hoops to preserve the visual display of the drum map in this scenario; it just wasn't in the design requirements and probalby wasn't noticed or realized that this might be useful.

Thanks David,  It isn't a huge problem, just ensuring it wasn't something simple I was or was not doing.