Add Split command to Track View Clips menu

[Starship Krupa]

The only way to invoke the split clip command is to either use a keyboard shortcut ("S") or right click menu (or Alt-click).

Less common operations such as Bounce to Clips and Convert to Stereo/Convert to Mono are included on the Track View Clips menu.

This makes Sonar more difficult for new users to learn, at least those users who expect commands (especially common ones) to be in the menus. Which included me when I first started using CbB.

Edited October 19 by Starship Krupa

[Amberwolf]

Sorry for the possible OT....

I was going to suggest (for experienced users, rather than newbies that wouldn't know about the function) using the Menu Editor (if the current Sonar still has that option), but I found that at least in my ancient version there isn't apparently a way to add items to at least that menu (the Process menu in my version, if you are referring to the main menu bar, vs the one in the actual clips pane).   

I usually use keybindings, so I hadn't tried to edit the menus in this way for a very long time, and had forgotten this (if I ever knew it).   The only use I know I made for the function was to hide certain menu options (like Save, since I *only* use SaveAs, and even changed the keybinding CTRL-S to point to SaveAs instead of Save).  

 

So...anyway, yes, this is probably a good change to make--I remember long ago looking for the Split menu option and not finding one there, where I expected it should be (but I was also already a keybindings user, and not a newbie to cakewalk,. so I already had solutions for things). 

 

Only semi-related to your topic: Would be nice to be able to actually *edit* the menus, for real, to move items between them, add things that aren't in them (but are in some other menu, or otherwise is a function that already exists that can be called up this way). 

 

/OT 

[Starship Krupa]

On 10/19/2024 at 9:05 PM, Amberwolf said:

Would be nice to be able to actually *edit* the menus, for real, to move items between them, add things that aren't in them

I'd like this, because I love to customize, but I think most would agree that it's the purpose of the Custom module.

[David Baay]

Personally, I almost always check context menus first when using new software, but I agree Split should be in the Clips menu along with Bounce to Clip(s) which I use frequently enough that I have it in the Custom module.

[Starship Krupa]

6 hours ago, David Baay said:

I almost always check context menus first when using new software

As do I, but I also open all the top menus just to see what's there, and if I don't see a command, I sometimes get the initial impression that it doesn't exist.

If someone is coming from the Mac world, where the law of "If It Was First Available In Windows It Must Never Be Added To MacOS" once ruled, the right mouse button and Steve Jobs couldn't exist at the same time. They may not be so up to speed on context menus.

Experienced DAW users will take it for granted that any DAW that uses clips/regions/events/whatever has to have a Split command, somewhere. But there are always people who are entirely new to DAW's, who might not even know that clips can be split. They may assume that slip editing (or whatever) is the only way.

With the current model of bundling Sonar with a BandLab membership, I think that there will be more users who open it up just to poke around. They're paying for it, so why not.

I bet it would drive an experienced user nuts to look over the shoulder of a newer user and see all the fumbling and "long way around" methods they are using.😄