Magic Russ Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 https://www.kvraudio.com/news/scuffham-amps-announces-the-chance-to-get-the-entire-s-gear-suite-at-a-one-time-low-price-61820 Quote Buy the entire S-GEAR suite for a one-time low price of $79 (reg. $129) in the Scuffham Amps' Autumn Sale. Explore S-GEAR fully to discover the new Virtual Pedalboard, the DriveThru, SGS-Compressor and Wah Thing pedals. The offer is valid until the 20th of October 2024 from Scuffham Amps. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 Best price I can recall ever seeing. Past sales have been $99, iirc. https://www.scuffhamamps.com/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted October 9 Author Share Posted October 9 I'm pretty sure the last time I saw it that low was a few presidential administrations ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrate Audio Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 agreed. great price. makes we wonder how crowded is the guitar sim market and hard to sell in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 21 hours ago, Nitrate Audio said: agreed. great price. makes we wonder how crowded is the guitar sim market and hard to sell in it. That was the same thing I thought. It makes me wonder what the future for developers like this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 On 10/9/2024 at 1:54 PM, Nitrate Audio said: agreed. great price. makes we wonder how crowded is the guitar sim market and hard to sell in it. I can't imagine they are bringing in many new users given the lay of the land. It has to be legacy people that want the latest version. I also don't expect the product takes much dev work at this point as it doesn't have many amps or effects under the hood. Given TONEX entry point has been in the $40 range a few times, hard to imagine getting much attention from those that know the whole market. Overloud is about the only other player in this space doing something interesting but that is specifically tied to profiling specific iconic gear owned by legends. If IKM had the same access to that gear and added it to the stable for a small price, Overloud also wouldn't be anything other than a footnote in a conversation due to price and lack of hardware to run it even if the capture tech has more focus on having the range of controls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrate Audio Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) there is a lot of sims out there. I follow discussions on the gear page. lots of talk of neural and tonex. not so much the others. this does look appealing though. he is defiantly working on it. https://www.scuffhamamps.com/download/release-history which is more than can say for my other fav sim. Edited October 10 by Nitrate Audio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 11 minutes ago, Nitrate Audio said: there is a lot of sims out there. I follow discussions on the gear page. lots of talk of neural and tonex. not so much the others. this does look appealing though. he is defiantly working on it. https://www.scuffhamamps.com/download/release-history which is more than can say for my other fav sim. There are and I have a lot of them. None get used once the collection was built in TONEX and they released corresponding pedals though. I've tried the Neural plugins and do not think they are in line with the price of what they offer at this point. The Neural QC has respectable capture tech, so I think they will carry on and do ok. Some of these others, even if good compared to other "modelers" I expect are in for loss of market share unless they go the dirt cheap route. Nembrini + Plugin Alliance + Universal Audio (many of which were designed by the same guy) simply are not on the level of sound/feel/response of Tonex. It is amazing the number of options out there now that are far better than what we had 15 years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 21 hours ago, Brian Walton said: I can't imagine they are bringing in many new users given the lay of the land. It has to be legacy people that want the latest version. I also don't expect the product takes much dev work at this point as it doesn't have many amps or effects under the hood. Given TONEX entry point has been in the $40 range a few times, hard to imagine getting much attention from those that know the whole market. Overloud is about the only other player in this space doing something interesting but that is specifically tied to profiling specific iconic gear owned by legends. If IKM had the same access to that gear and added it to the stable for a small price, Overloud also wouldn't be anything other than a footnote in a conversation due to price and lack of hardware to run it even if the capture tech has more focus on having the range of controls. I think you're being very prescient here. I think you did a particularly good job in analyzing the market in coming year in your second post (above). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 S-Gear still gets regular use here, could even be considered a "digital classic". The only missing bit is a Vox emulation but my understanding is the amp topology is a bit tricky to model to the same degree as the existing models. So ya, Tonex has been great for Vox and some nice boutique amps, but the UX (app only) continues to remind me why IK is on my blacklist. jmho. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrate Audio Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 2 hours ago, jackson white said: a "digital classic". But is it still worth this price in this day and age of modelers and sims? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 3 hours ago, Nitrate Audio said: is it still worth this price in this day and age of modelers and sims? good question. i work with a 30yr+ LA studio veteran who is very opinionated on all that (like every other guitar player i know) and S-Gear is the only app i could even get him to try. still prefers his self modded Twin Reverbs, but got him to give it a shot. the Marshall pedigree might have had something to do with it. what i like most about it is that it's not trying to be an exact copy of something so much as a playable sim with the classic vibe to the tone. all the others have been shelved with the exception of Tonex. of course, can't see picking it for any high gain business. jmmv. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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