murat k. Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 I haven’t visited the forum for a while. While browsing through it, I noticed that a feature for users who aren’t logged in is missing. Previously, when we clicked on the date next to the last comment in the thread, it would take us directly to that comment. Now, however, the link only directs us to the thread where the comment is located. Using Wayback Machine to look back, it appears that this feature was removed with an update in August 2023. Before August 2023, the link associated with the last comment’s date contained &do=getLastComment at the end, but now, it seems this is only generated when users are logged in. This was a useful feature, and bringing it back would make navigating the forum easier for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lɐʍd Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 (edited) if you're not logged in, use the "all activity" icon link at the top of the forum homepage, altho that's for all posts across all forum or log in 🤷♀️ Edited October 4 by pwallington blunt clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 2 hours ago, pwallington blunt said: if you're not logged in, use the "all activity" icon link at the top of the forum homepage, altho that's for all posts across all forum or log in 🤷♀️ If you can't solve the issue on the website, you might consider using your empathy to think about the benefits that restoring a useful feature would provide for everyone, or don't comment 🤷♀️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lɐʍd Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 Pragmatic workaround 🤷♂️ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 8 minutes ago, pwallington blunt said: Pragmatic workaround 🤷♂️ 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 Hopefully, this change on the site wasn't implemented as a result of a deliberate decision, and the site admin resolves the issue; otherwise, we will be left with a user's suggestion to view all activity in the forum everytime when we're simply trying to find a single comment. When someone requests a solution to a problem, if you can't resolve it yourself, choose to support them rather than offering suggestions you think are pragmatic, if you genuinely want to help. In this way, you'll avoid unnecessary commenting and actually provide meaningful help. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 Dear @pwallington blunt, let's imagine we're browsing the forum and come across a thread that's two years old and four pages long. If the issue is resolved, we can reach the last comment with a single click. However, with the method you suggested, we would have to view all the comments posted on the site over the past two years one by one, which makes accessing the comment pragmatically impossible. Setting pragmaticality aside, you must acknowledge that this solution doesn’t even work for a recently posted comment in a forum where many topics are opened simultaneously. You might not fully understand what I’m talking about, and that’s okay. However, if we want to help others, the first thing we need to do is understand them. If we don't understand, it's best to remain silent. Otherwise, conflicts arise here, as we see. You came here, offered me no help or practical solution, and on top of that, you’re doing this to me. 🤷♂️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lɐʍd Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 you posted your question in a user forum, instead of contacting the admin; i as a user offered a workaround 🤷♀️ sorry you're upset by this /goodluck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 25 minutes ago, pwallington blunt said: you posted your question in a user forum, instead of contacting the admin; i as a user offered a workaround 🤷♀️ sorry you're upset by this /goodluck To be honest, you've put yourself in a very meaningless situation by giving a piece of advice that pragmatically offers no benefit in a thread clearly addressed to the site administrators. It's okay; such things can happen. But if you know who the site administrator is, you can share their name here to draw their attention and provide real help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 Hahaha, it wouldn't be the same without you. I guess I've missed you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) In before the lock. JMO: People who want a feature for their own personal benefit and claim they are suggesting it because everyone would want it are the ones who lack empathy. 🤷♂️ Edited October 5 by User 905133 added a shrug because it seems to be appropriate here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 3 minutes ago, User 905133 said: In before the lock. JMO: People who want a feature for their own personal benefit and claim they are suggesting it because everyone would want it are the ones who lack empathy. 🤷♂️ I wanted to bring up the concept of empathy in relation to the phrase 'or log in'—not everyone has to log in. Even if I wanted it for myself, it will benefit everyone once the issue is resolved. I just wanted to emphasize that. Perhaps we could make a meaningful step towards truth by striving to understand others, rather than hastily passing judgment on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, murat k. said: Perhaps we could make a meaningful step towards truth by striving to understand others, rather than hastily passing judgment on them. Just in case you think the conclusion I made was made in haste; it wasn't. I read the posts in this thread over a span of time since yesterday. Edited October 5 by User 905133 Removed all references to secondary issues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 34 minutes ago, User 905133 said: Just in case you think the conclusion I made was made in haste; it wasn't. I read the combative posts in this thread over a span of time. My comment was made based on a reminder of a very distasteful "discussion" we had several years ago where you refused to accept that I had the right to have personal preferences based on my own personal workflow and multiple times you told me rather arrogantly that I was wrong--even though all I was doing was expressing my own personal preferences for my own personal workflow. No. sir. My comment was not made in haste. It was made based on your modus operandi here which brought back the nightmares I had from interacting with someone who had the lack of ability to accept that different people had the right to have different workflows and was so arrogant as to tell me I was wrong on a matter of personal preferences. This has always been the case, and it’s the same now. When I ask for a solution to a problem, I encounter people who neither solve the issue, nor understand what I’m saying, nor help me at all. Instead, I get unhelpful advice from those who clearly haven’t understood me. For example, when I say, ‘I’m very thirsty,’ you respond with, ‘There’s pastry; you can eat that.’ I try to explain that this is something completely different, then you accuse me of lacking empathy. I think you all have forgotten this as active users in a public forum, giving irrelevant advice without understanding a person's request can hinder their ability to achieve their goals and also frustrate them. I suggest asking yourself whether you are showing empathy before defining what empathy is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57Gregy Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 I can help you. Sign in and never sign out. Works for me. I must admit I don't remember being able to do what you want unless you were signed in. But I've only been here 20 years. I'm old, too. 🙂 What did I come in here for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezerekted Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) I myself have wondered about this functionality, as I have found it useful whether logged in or not on other forums. So I guess if I also would find it of use there would certainly be others as well, so the OP' assertion that it would not only be beneficial to himself but others as well is likely correct. Edited October 6 by Rezerekted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murat k. Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 5 hours ago, 57Gregy said: I can help you. Sign in and never sign out. Works for me. I must admit I don't remember being able to do what you want unless you were signed in. But I've only been here 20 years. I'm old, too. 🙂 What did I come in here for? There you go. One more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lɐʍd Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 13 hours ago, murat k. said: I encounter people who neither solve the issue, nor understand what I’m saying, nor help me at all ftr, i know what a querystring key/value is, but i'm a user in the user support forum not the site admin, so i cant change that, and offered a workaround 🤷♀️ did you contact the site admin yet, or are you just milking this troll post? /goodluck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Oh look a rabbit hole, oops. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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