changing sounds from keyboard yamaha sx600

[Mieszkanie Zalesie]

Hi. How to control sound change (bank/patch/program/voice) in cakewalk from physical hardware keyboard yamaha sx600? When I change sound (bank/patch/program/voice) directly in cakewalk there's also change in my keyboard. But when I change sound in keyboard there's no change in cakewalk. In keyboard all midi transmisions and receivings are on.

 

Edited September 28 by Mieszkanie Zalesie
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[57Gregy]

10 hours ago, Mieszkanie Zalesie said:

when I change sound in keyboard there's no change in cakewalk.

I think that's normal.

[Promidi]

The patch/Bank parameter of a MIDI track or a SIT cannot be changed using externally received MIDI patch Change events.  You have to set the initial patch parameters manually as you would any other parameters of a MIDI track or a SIT.

I say “initial patch”, because you can record Patch Change events in your MIDI track or SIT.  

I use patch change events all the time in my MIDI projects.  However, I do not record them.  I enter them from a drop down in the Patch browser.  The correct patch names appear in the list because I am using the correct instrument definition file for my external MIDI player (a Yamaha SW1000XG). 

If I did have a Yamaha PSR SX600 keyboard, I would never need to touch it to select its patches.  This is because I would be using the PSR SX600 instrument definition file from the following website.

http://w.jososoft.dk/yamaha/ins_files.htm

[57Gregy]

Yeah, that's ^ what I meant to say. 😁

[Mieszkanie Zalesie]

On 10/1/2024 at 4:23 AM, Promidi said:

The patch/Bank parameter of a MIDI track or a SIT cannot be changed using externally received MIDI patch Change events.  You have to set the initial patch parameters manually as you would any other parameters of a MIDI track or a SIT.

I say “initial patch”, because you can record Patch Change events in your MIDI track or SIT.  

I use patch change events all the time in my MIDI projects.  However, I do not record them.  I enter them from a drop down in the Patch browser.  The correct patch names appear in the list because I am using the correct instrument definition file for my external MIDI player (a Yamaha SW1000XG). 

If I did have a Yamaha PSR SX600 keyboard, I would never need to touch it to select its patches.  This is because I would be using the PSR SX600 instrument definition file from the following website.

http://w.jososoft.dk/yamaha/ins_files.htm

i have good sx600.ins instrument definition but browsing sounds in cakewalk is so hard because sounds are not sorted in banks like in my keboard: piano, organ, guitar, bass, drums etc. In cakewalk all sounds are in one place without any banks (patch browser) or in completly messup banks on the track panel where for example there's a bank called "psr-sx600 1365" and in that bank are only three completly random sounds like for example bright piano, pan flute 2 and lets say brush kit 1. It's a disaster

[Promidi]

3 minutes ago, Mieszkanie Zalesie said:

i have good sx600.ins instrument definition but browsing sounds in cakewalk is so hard because sounds are not sorted in banks like in my keboard: piano, organ, guitar, bass, drums etc. In cakewalk all sounds are in one place without any banks (patch browser) or in completly messup banks on the track panel where for example there's a bank called "psr-sx600 1365" and in that bank are only three completly random sounds like for example bright piano, pan flute 2 and lets say brush kit 1. It's a disaster

That would be down to the INS file.

With the SW1000XG, there are about 1536 patches to choose from ...  many using the bank parameter to get to them.

With my SW1000XG file, I do not have to worry about the banks....  the INS file contains them all.

All I have to do is select the right patch name from the drop down and the right bank/patch number gets inserted.  I nver have to worry about actual bank or even patch numbers.

I have done it that way for about 25 years using various iterations of Cakewalk.