Is there a way to import a tempo map into Bandlab?

[GTsongwriter]

I use Melodyne to create a tempo map and curious if it's possible to import that tempo map.mid file into Bandlab so that I can create beats on time with the song my friend created without a program.  My friend just plays guitar and sings, but they don't use any recording software.  That's why I use Melodyne to create tempo map. 

Anyone know how to import Tempo map.mid file into Bandlab for iOS or Android or Website?

[msmcleod]

As far as I know, the BandLab app only supports a single project tempo.

[GTsongwriter]

With this new information...

I'm curious if the following workflow is possible and how it might be done. Here's what I'm imagining:

1. **Create a click track in BandLab.**

2. In Cakewalk, **create a tempo map** by dragging the audio file to the tempo bar (when it turns blue, drop it).

3. **Import the click track** from BandLab into Cakewalk.

4. **Stretch the tempo map** in Cakewalk to sync the project in time with the imported click track.

5. **Export the adjusted audio** from Cakewalk to be re-imported back into BandLab.

 

Has anyone tried this or know if it's possible? I'd appreciate any tips on how to achieve this workflow if it can be done. Thanks!

[pwallie]

Why use bandlab at all?

[GTsongwriter]

6 hours ago, pwalpwal said:

Why use bandlab at all?

Because it's mobile.  I can use it on my phone and iOS.  You can't say that about Cakewalk.

And it makes collaboration easier!

I was thinking of file sharing websites, they are full of ads and some can attached virus or malware, etc.

Bandlab is easy for newbies or people whom are computer illiterate to collaborate. I don't have to spend a whole lot of time in teaching the singer, guitarist, bass player, etc how to use Bandlab.  I can spend more time mixing, and mastering the song.

They only thing I wish was Bandlab to support 24bit files instead of 16bit.  The highest they allow is 96khz 16bit.

 

Once you find others you want to collaborate with, the hard part is to think how educated are they at the computer in getting you the files you need?  Bandlab fills in the blanks and makes it easy for them to record and send that to you at the same time!

 

I find and work with a lot of aspiring artists whom don't use the computer.  They tend to be into their phones more than a computer.  Bandlab is on the phone.  That's a part of the equation where Bandlab makes sense.  Bandlab is both on Android and iPhone.  That's even better!

 

When you get into collaboration with new and young artists, this will make more sense to you.

Edited September 18 by GTsongwriter

[pwallie]

18 hours ago, GTsongwriter said:

Because it's mobile.

ah yes forgetting about this

18 hours ago, GTsongwriter said:

I was thinking of file sharing websites, they are full of ads and some can attached virus or malware, etc.

depends on the one you use, wetransfer is a decent freebie, or google drive or ms onedrive are trustworthy, also don't forget to have script & ad blocker extensions installed in your browser, general rule of thumb, the internet is much safer

18 hours ago, GTsongwriter said:

When you get into collaboration with new and young artists, this will make more sense to you.

makes sense already!

/goodluck

[msmcleod]

Depending on how the guitar is played, for a simple guitar / vocal recording, it's unlikely that tempo detection will give accurate results.

So... BandLab only supports a single tempo.

If you absolutely have to fit stuff to a grid, then you'll need to provide the tempos manually.

1. "Set Beat At Now" is probably the easiest way to do this.  Essentially, you're going through the song and telling Cakewalk "This is measure 1, beat 1",  "This measure 2, beat 1" etc.   As you go through the process, a tempo map will be built up.

..as alternative to this, you can record a single MIDI track where you play a single note every 1/4 note, select that clip, then use "Fit to Improvisation".

2. Next, you want to set the audio files to stretch to tempo. 

3. Finally, open the tempo inspector, delete all the tempos and set a single project tempo.

At this point the audio files should be playing in time with the single tempo, and on grid.

If the audio quality suffers from the stretching, it may be worth looking at using the Loop Construction View.  This allows you to specify the individual measures/beats within the audio clip itself, and can help to inform the stretching algorithm as to what bits to stretch/leave alone.   In other words, if it can achieve the desired tempo by reducing/increasing the gaps between audio it will do, instead of stretching the actual audio.

It's also worth reading up about online vs offline stretch render algorithms. TDLR - online algorithms don't sound as good quality wise as they're designed to give you quick results while you focus on timing.