Al Saenz Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Howdy! I'm just trying to get my head around an issue that I am having that I am sure is pretty simple but I can't seem to fix. I am just doing some very simple synth generations and want some solid and even notes. No articulations and no variations. Just straight the whole way. I am doing my testing with the built-in Cakewalk TTS-1 instrument plugin. I don't even have a MIDI keyboard. I am just using the PC keyboard. So, what I noticed is that the generated note starts at a higher dB and then lowers and levels out after about twenty seconds. Is this a velocity issue or something else? I am questioning whether it is velocity related since I am using the PC keyboard. Anyways, can someone help me figure this out. I just want the generated note to be even without and changes in volume. What am I missing here? Thanks for the help. Cheers! Peace, -Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57Gregy Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 6 hours ago, Al Saenz said: Howdy! I'm just trying to get my head around an issue that I am having that I am sure is pretty simple but I can't seem to fix. I am just doing some very simple synth generations and want some solid and even notes. No articulations and no variations. Just straight the whole way. I am doing my testing with the built-in Cakewalk TTS-1 instrument plugin. I don't even have a MIDI keyboard. I am just using the PC keyboard. So, what I noticed is that the generated note starts at a higher dB and then lowers and levels out after about twenty seconds. Is this a velocity issue or something else? I am questioning whether it is velocity related since I am using the PC keyboard. Anyways, can someone help me figure this out. I just want the generated note to be even without and changes in volume. What am I missing here? Thanks for the help. Cheers! Peace, -Al Welcome to the forum. It depends on the patch. A piano will naturally fade over time regardless of the length of the held or drawn note. An Arp 2600 will play forever if the note is long enough, or you hold the key down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Velocities are set per note as part of the MIDI note on event data packet. If you are using the PC keyboard, then the note velocities would be a constant value because your PC keyboard cannot generate velocity information in the same was a MIDI controller can. Velocity is actually how hard (or fast) each key is pressed as you play. What you are probably meaning is track volume. The track volume is probably set to a high value to start with. then as playback gets further into the track, the part lowers in volume. You probably have CC7 or CC11 MIDI events after some of the Note On events have been encountered. Use the Piano Roll View or Event list view to check for these CC7 or CC11 MIDI events after some of the Notes Note: I recommend you eventually plan on getting a MIDI controller that can transmit velocity information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Saenz Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 Okay, I considered what you both said, but here is my issue. The fade that I am talking about is in relation to Synth Lead / Sine Wave. There is no natural fading after the initial slow drop. The signal is indeed constant after the initial drop/fade. As for any other events in the Piano Roll View, I don't even have to record for this issue to happen. Please watch the attached video to see what I am talking about. Watch and listen to Channel 1 on the TTS-1 instrument. And then let me know what you think. Thanks! Cakewalk_Level_Drop.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Insert CC72 values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Saenz Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 Thanks Promidi! I'll have to see if I can figure that out. MIDI and the inner workings are not my normal usage of Cakewalk. But I appreciate the guidance. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57Gregy Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 If you draw in a note in the Staff or Piano Roll views, do they behave the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Saenz Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 57Gregy, yes, the same thing happens even if I draw in the note on the Piano Roll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 11 hours ago, Al Saenz said: Thanks Promidi! I'll have to see if I can figure that out. MIDI and the inner workings are not my normal usage of Cakewalk. But I appreciate the guidance. Cheers! You can add Controller Events with the Piano Roll View. With TT-S (and all GM or XG synths) CC72 adjusts the release time (or the fade out of the sound after the key is released). Of course, if the instrument is sample based then the there must be sound sound in the sample that can be used for the duration of the release. See: Fri 30-Aug-2024 11-43-51-AM.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Saenz Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Promidi, so I added the CC72 but after some messing around I realized that was the opposite of what I needed. The release is not what I needed. I needed the initial activation of the note to not have the falloff. It doesn't matter at the end of the note. So CC75 (Envelope Decay) was the closest to achieving what I wanted. It shortened the initial drop from 10 seconds to 3 seconds if I set the Value=0 I tried CC73 (Envelope Attack) because that seemed logical in my head but that made no difference. So I might just need to stick with the CC75 value and suck up the 3 second drop in volume at the beginning. Thanks! Peace, -Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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