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Time for a new PC build


MisterGreen

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With my current system being 12 years old and the release of a new Sonar, it's time to start a new PC build. As with all of my previous builds I start with the motherboard. I have had zero issues with ASUS boards so that is what I'm looking at. Everything seems to be geared toward "gaming" these days. Does it matter when building a DAW?

Looking at ASUS ATX boards with Intel chipsets, is there anything to look for or avoid when choosing?

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There's a bug in 13 & 14 gen intel i7 & i9 processors. Intel is supposed to release a fix in a few days. I have an i7, but my system has been stable. If you're thinking about either of those processors hold off for a few weeks.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/07/intel-has-finally-tracked-down-the-problem-making-13th-and-14th-gen-cpus-crash/

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I've built scores of machines using 13th and 14th Gen CPUs.

If you know how to configure them... they're certainly not a problem.

 

Especially if you're talking about the i9 13900k or 14900k, they're not what I'd call a "novice-build".

If you just set everything to "Auto" and set memory to XMP Profile 1/2, you're going to have a machine that thermal-throttles under heavy loads... and will most likely be unstable (especially if using faster DDR5).

Proper BIOS configuration will prevent thermal-throttling, instability, and potentially damaging the CPU.

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2 hours ago, Jim Roseberry said:

I've built scores of machines using 13th and 14th Gen CPUs.

If you know how to configure them... they're certainly not a problem.

That's good to know. I got my system from you last month and it's running fine.

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On 8/8/2024 at 1:37 PM, MisterGreen said:

With my current system being 12 years old and the release of a new Sonar, it's time to start a new PC build.

The kinda ironic thing is that NuSonar now runs more efficiently on the same hardware than SONAR or Cakewalk by BandLab did, so the system requirements are lower than they were 6 years ago.

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On 8/8/2024 at 1:37 PM, MisterGreen said:

Looking at ASUS ATX boards with Intel chipsets, is there anything to look for or avoid when choosing?

One thing to consider is if the MB has a USB C connector for the front panel on the case. My ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming does not have one so I have a USB C port  on my cases front panel that I can't use unless I buy an adapter of some kind.

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22 minutes ago, Chaps said:

One thing to consider is if the MB has a USB C connector for the front panel on the case. My ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming does not have one so I have a USB C port  on my cases front panel that I can't use unless I buy an adapter of some kind.

Noted. Thanks, Chaps. I think I've narrowed the search down to the ASUS Prime Z790-P. Now I'm just researching drive options. Ultimately, I want it to accommodate 4 (system, audio, instruments, samples).

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52 minutes ago, MisterGreen said:

Noted. Thanks, Chaps. I think I've narrowed the search down to the ASUS Prime Z790-P. Now I'm just researching drive options. Ultimately, I want it to accommodate 4 (system, audio, instruments, samples).

That looks like a great choice, especially if you want to use liquid cooling. It  has three M2 slots so I would fill those up if it were me and I had the funds, because of their superior data transfer speed. I would also stay with solid state and make my fourth drive a 2.5" SSD.

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11 hours ago, Chaps said:

That looks like a great choice, especially if you want to use liquid cooling. It  has three M2 slots so I would fill those up if it were me and I had the funds, because of their superior data transfer speed. I would also stay with solid state and make my fourth drive a 2.5" SSD.

Thanks. Speaking of liquid cooling, are those overkill for a non-tweaked audio PC? I've always used the fan type and never had a problem with temps.

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2 hours ago, MisterGreen said:

Thanks. Speaking of liquid cooling, are those overkill for a non-tweaked audio PC? I've always used the fan type and never had a problem with temps.

I don't have any experience with them... yet. I am thinking about getting a faster processor with more cores that highly recommends using liquid cooling because it runs so hot so I have been looking at some AOI (All In One) coolers. The main factors are what kind of processor you are using, How much of a load it's under and for how long, and how much airflow your case has, I think. My CPU now is running up to 47 C (116.6 F) and I'm just using a Wraith fan cooler and 6 case fans with no problems. The specs for my CPU say its Max. Operating Temperature is 95 C (203 F). So the two things you can check are your CPU's max operating temperature and how hot it's actually getting while in use.

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16 hours ago, Chaps said:

That looks like a great choice, especially if you want to use liquid cooling. It  has three M2 slots so I would fill those up if it were me and I had the funds, because of their superior data transfer speed. I would also stay with solid state and make my fourth drive a 2.5" SSD.

Looks like the Z790-A is a better choice. It's cheaper and has 4 M.2 slots. Performance-wise it looks identical.

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