Starship Krupa Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I'd read the comments on that YouTube video, try the demo first. People are complaining that Union's CPU hungry. If true, disappointing, because SoundSpot's FX typically are not so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, Starship Krupa said: try the demo first. People are complaining that Union's CPU hungry. I tried the demo and that was certainly my experience with it. The price is good, UI is nice but the sounds don't justify the cpu hit IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Bought it, spent 5 min with it, confirmed it is CPU hungry. Will prob have to be in the first couple tracks and then "freeze" it on my machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I tried the Union demo and the CPU usage with the factory presets with one instance ran between 15-50% on my system. Never quite to the breaking up point, but I could see where this might be a problem with several other tracks and instruments. I like the UI and overall experience with the synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 11/1/2019 at 7:54 PM, Monomox said: This is a good excuse to spend $8 on Soundspot Union The deal breaker for this synth for me is no velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monomox Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Promidi said: The deal breaker for this synth for me is no velocity. first I was like then I installed the demo... OMG! NO VELOCITY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monomox Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Monomox said: then I installed the demo... OMG! NO VELOCITY! More like OMFG, what year do they think this is? Hint to developers, don't develop your plugins on a Commodore 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Does this mean that all notes sound at the same volume regardless of how hard you hit the keyboard, or that there's no difference in the timbre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monomox Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, antler said: Does this mean that all notes sound at the same volume regardless of how hard you hit the keyboard, or that there's no difference in the timbre? no difference whatsoever, it's stuck on 4th gear,lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 That is so retro, LOL!!! Just like my 80's Casio CZ-1000 keyboard (although that unit is capable of receiving MIDI velocity via MIDI port). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 No wonder it's 8 bucks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 41 minutes ago, Monomox said: no difference whatsoever, it's stuck on 4th gear,lol! Will have to see what the future holds, but confirmation they will look into velocity: https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=533832&start=120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musical Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Even my Roland JX-3P, which was pretty much the first midi synth alongside the Pro 600, could do velocity via Midi with an EPROM swap. I find the lack of velocity in 2019 unbelievable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Do they seriously believe any sane person would ever pay $US155.00 (The full price after Jan 2, 2020) for a synth that does not have velocity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Brian Walton said: Will have to see what the future holds, but confirmation they will look into velocity: https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=533832&start=120 I saw that thread too, but he is just a marketing guy hired to "manage" social media. We'll see! Deal breaker for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Getting anything iZotope usually feels like Xmas morning to me, but Nectar Elements is disappointing compared to the other Elements products. Usually the Elements suites amount to subsets of the Standard suites, otherwise they work just the same. A suite of top-notch processors, sometimes with a wizard and a bunch of really good presets. You can let the wizard do its thing or call up a preset, then go in and tune the individual processors, or just jump in and work the controls from scratch. Not so with Nectar Elements. In order to get it to do anything, you have to run the wizard, then you are presented with a set of single slider controls for each of the processors, to control the "amount" of processing. There's no way to get at the modules' individual settings. (I snagged Accusonus' ERA 4 Voice Leveler to get it) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) Yep, this product seems to go too far into automation world... Just for comparison, the very first Nectar Element where after picking preset one can shape things in much flexible way: Edited November 9, 2019 by Piotr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibby Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Wow! Anyone know if it's possible to install previous versions?? That looks awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibby Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 You can download here.... https://www.izotope.com/en/products/downloads/legacy-products.html No idea if it will run with a new serial or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, mibby said: You can download here.... https://www.izotope.com/en/products/downloads/legacy-products.html No idea if it will run with a new serial or not. I am afraid it will not. Serial has different prod ids for different products. NE v1 has SN-NECTARELEMENTS-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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