GTsongwriter Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) So... with default settings, I engaged all the AUTO features on each and rendered those files. I took snip pictures of the final output from the plugins (see pictures). H76 - stem_without_normalizer.wav MulticompPlusMK2 - stem_without_normalizer.wav I couldn't upload 96 khz 24 bit because of max total size being 4.88mb, so I uploaded 44.1khz 16 bit instead. Just note, auto gets turned off after you run thru the audio the first time. The static output is performed after your first "listen" with these plugins. Edited July 19 by El Diablo 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Here's the original sound: original sound_2.wav That's for the snare... if you wane me to do some for other instruments, please let me know exactly which ones. I had previously render both of those first snares at the same time... then rendered this original afterwards... it seems the instrument randomly picks times to change it's sound... so the first two sound the same, and the original sounds slightly different. Even if I use the normalizer on both to make their output sound the same.... they still sound different. Here's with the Hornet The Normalizer at -3dB: H76 +13.8db H76 - stem_with_normalizer.wav Multipcomp plug mk2 +6.3db MulticompPlusMK2 - stem_with_normalizer.wav Edited July 19 by El Diablo 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Ok... finally... got everything right above now. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 ALL BUTTON: H76_ALL_button.wav 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) I wonder if I should be normalizing these, as H76 tends to be the lowest sounding of them all. Here's a kick, which I reset all to factory, I had to manually set Multicomp plus MK2 to FET, I used AUTO on all of them: Original original sound_kick.wav H76 H76_kick.wav Multicomp Plus MK2 MulticompPlusMK2_kick.wav The H76 is more tight of a sound compared to the Multicomp Plus MK2, even in it's FET mode. Edited July 19 by El Diablo 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Same kick above, but normalized to -3 db for all sounds (using Hornet The Normalizer): Original original sound_kick_normalized.wav H76 H76_kick_normalized.wav Multicomp Plus MK2 MulticompPlusMK2_kick_normalized.wav 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Guitar Normalized to -3db: Original Sound: original sound_guitar_normalized.wav H76: H76_guitar_normalized.wav Multicomp Plus MK2: MulticompPlusMK2_guitar_normalized.wav In my opinion, the Multicomp Plus MK2 in FET mode only just raises the volume and doesn't do anything else, while the H76 actually tights the sound and makes it sound more picky and firm. Note, this was the actual guitar used for Where Love Resides song I written recently and posted in songs here @ cakewalk.com Edited July 19 by El Diablo 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Wow, @El Diablo, what a bunch of useful posts you've made. I think -- beyond cclarry, who's our MVP -- you have to win the award for the most helpful forum member for our community today with these posts. Kudos. You really went through a lot of effort to help us know more about this tool. Much respect! Edited July 19 by PavlovsCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamienF Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 thanks for these tests ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 18 hours ago, PavlovsCat said: You really went through a lot of effort to help us know more about this tool. I think El has had his coffee today. And we get to benefit! These kinds of comparative listening tests are very valuable for comparing processors. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 @El Diablo thanks immensely for that!! It obviously took some time, and I appreciate it. I particularly liked the way the H76 handled the acoustic guitar. Like you noted, it really brought out the edgy/steely sound. You've convinced me to buy one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) 16 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: I think El has had his coffee today. And we get to benefit! These kinds of comparative listening tests are very valuable for comparing processors. Yep, another reason why I appreciate this forum so much, people like you and El Diablo being so helpful to others and sharing your knowledge. Although I do find it a bit odd to find myself thanking "The Devil." Edited July 21 by PavlovsCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTsongwriter Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I was playing with the H76 today when I was "remixing" someone else's content where I separated their vocals from the instruments using Acon Digital Rexmix plugin and used it in her vocals. She had a tendency to sing in a way that lowered and raised her vocal volume that you couldn't hear what she was saying at times. While having H76 doing 'Auto', I started to raise the output on the H76 to -12db instead of the -24db that it likes to start at. I'm amazed how well the H76 balances her vocal so that I can clearly hear the silent parts while taming the loud parts. Since I don't own the audio as I'm waiting on permission to remix her song, you'll just have to accept my word on it, for now. I didn't save anything, I did everything in real time while it was playing thru YouTube. Lucky, unlike RX 10 Standard, Acon Digital Rexmix works in real time. But, pretty neat that the H76 can bring up soft areas of a vocal while taming the loud areas. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoRNet Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 On 7/19/2024 at 11:39 AM, DamienF said: Is there some sonic difference between the FET compressor of Multicomp and the H76 ? Plenty. First the FET model is one of the oldest compression algorithm we have and it has been designed copying the behaviour of a simulated 1176 circuit (we used some engineering tool called SPICE, some of you may know it, to simulate the circuit beck in 2013 or something...) the H76 model is the result of the analysis of a real 1176 blackface hardware, measured in every aspect (and the attack an release behaviour it's completely different in real life from what the circuit seems to imply) Also the compression curves are different and this makes a big difference too. Saverio 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 4 hours ago, HoRNet said: Plenty. First the FET model is one of the oldest compression algorithm we have and it has been designed copying the behaviour of a simulated 1176 circuit (we used some engineering tool called SPICE, some of you may know it, to simulate the circuit beck in 2013 or something...) the H76 model is the result of the analysis of a real 1176 blackface hardware, measured in every aspect (and the attack an release behaviour it's completely different in real life from what the circuit seems to imply) Also the compression curves are different and this makes a big difference too. Saverio Thanks for providing this information, Saverio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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