jesse g Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 To WUP or not to WUP, that is the Question, ... Dump Waves, that is the answer!!! 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) In some cases it's well cheaper select the Upgrade option, instead of renewing WUP. I can "upgade" Abbey Road Collection for $48 but to WUP all individually wold cost $184. Also, in my case, it looks that the cost to WUP all my expired plugins is capped at $240. Edited October 28, 2019 by Sergio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I like a handful of WAVES plugins quite a bit. However the "new version" and WUP program is complete and total insanity. Charging the sale cost of a plugin simply to get support for a pluign that should work in the first place is crazy. The updates do not provide additional features, any obvious updates to stablity, etc. It seems v11 is basically for MAC users due to a new operating system so WAVES decided to make a new version instead of making v10 compatible thus the whole user base is impacted. The fact the WUP price will cost you more than you can get in a re-sale of the plugins is also absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monomox Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 So, what does this mean? Do we need one Waves Central for v10 plugins (WUP expired) and another Waves Central for v11? Or just the latest Waves Central? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 34 minutes ago, jesse g said: To WUP or not to WUP, that is the Question, ... Dump Waves, that is the answer!!! The new Waves Central doesn't upgrade the plugins when you install it. My plugins still say V9 and V10....if that helps...you have to actually to their site and upgrade them to get the new version 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) Here's the info on the Upgrade What You Get in Waves V11 Full ongoing compatibility with the latest major DAWs & operating systems (including macOS 10.15 Catalina). New updated versions of all eight Renaissance plugins, including: Freshly designed interfaces with three skin choices: Light, Dark, and Legacy Real-time frequency analyzers added to the R-EQ and R-Channel plugins Complete revision of the R-Channel user interface for more intuitive usage of the channel strip plugin 700+ new presets by leading artists Free plugins added to selected premium bundles: Platinum: OneKnob Pumper, MetaFilter, Greg Wells ToneCentric Diamond: OneKnob Pumper, MetaFilter, Greg Wells ToneCentric, Cobalt Saphira Horizon: OneKnob Pumper, MetaFilter, Greg Wells ToneCentric, WLM Plus Loudness Meter Mercury, Pro Show, SD7 Pro Show: Infected Mushroom Pusher Plugin performance improvements: see full list. Access to all other plugin updates since V10. 1400+ artist presets added to plugins: see full list. EQ Curve support on Pro Tools and Avid S6 for the AudioTrack, eMo F2, eMo Q4, F6, GEQ, H-EQ, Linear Phase EQ, Q10, R-EQ, R-Channel, RS56 plugins. Set any preset as default preset in all plugins. NKS support added to 43 Waves plugins for compatibility with Native Instruments hardware: see full list of NKS-ready plugins. Personal technical support (phone, email, TeamViewer) included in your Waves Update Plan coverage. Edited October 28, 2019 by cclarry 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 What is really going to hurt them is creating confusion for the end user. Their licensing sucks. More developers that rely on iLok even have multiple installs. Waves might as well be an iLok only product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 From Waves support. All of my licenses are Version 9.x or 10.x. Do you wish to update your V9/V10 licenses to V11? - Yes, I wish to update my V9/V10 licenses to V11. - No, I do not wish to update the V9/V10 licenses to V11, and I do not own any V11 licenses. Do not install V11 with the Waves Central application – stay with V9/V10 software and licenses only. There is no need to update or change anything as long as V9/V10 is working on your current setup. Before updating your OS or DAW version, please refer to our Supported Hosts and System Requirements pages to see if older versions will still work, or if you may need to update to a newer version for compatibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monomox Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, cclarry said: Access to all other plugin updates since V10. I just logged into my account and, without thinking about it, I upgraded my two plugins that still have WUP. So now I have two v11 and the rest is v10. It looks like the new WC will handle both 10 and 11 versions.... I hope. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, cclarry said: New updated versions of all eight Renaissance plugins, including: Freshly designed interfaces with three skin choices: Light, Dark, and Legacy Real-time frequency analyzers added to the R-EQ and R-Channel plugins NKS support added to 43 Waves plugins for compatibility with Native Instruments hardware: see full list of NKS-ready plugins Some of those updated Renaissance plugins do look tasty. Long time coming. And I dig more of that NKS love. But I resent WUP. Deeply. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 New renaissance gui looks like reason stuff lol ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Anybody knows if those renaissance are bigger , posting old and new pic side by side would be great ,.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 And lots of presets, especially for Renn EQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) The new WC looks good to me!! It has a lot of new features that I can see. Makes it much easier for me to see what I have and don't have. 2 hours ago, Monomox said: So, what does this mean? Do we need one Waves Central for v10 plugins (WUP expired) and another Waves Central for v11? Or just the latest Waves Central? ? If you look at the Support/Help drop down menu you will see a link that will take you to all the old installers. Lots of installers. Each one different for sure. But at least it's easier to locate them now. And my Mercury WUP ended in Sep. Here ya go Zo! You get three "Skins" Light, Dark, Legacy. As you can see, they new GUI looks much better and are bigger. Edited October 28, 2019 by Grem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Also found out this info from the WC11 Manual, so if anyone is still having issues with running different versions of Waves Plugins there is a tool now included in WC that may help: While it is technically possible to use a mix of products with different software versions (e.g., V9, V10, V11), we recommend that all of your products are the same version. This provides a more stable environment and makes it easier to diagnose conflicts between plugins and hosts. If you have installed several versions and are experiencing issues after installation or activation (e.g., host not loading plugins or running the wrong version), run the Version Organizer in Settings>Maintenance > Version Organizer. This will align the plugin versions with the licenses and move unused plugins to a separate folder. This does not affect your license and you can continue to use each version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Grem said: The new WC looks good to me!! It has a lot of new features that I can see. Makes it much easier for me to see what I have and don't have. If you look at the Support/Help drop down menu you will see a link that will take you to all the old installers. Lots of installers. Each one different for sure. But at least it's easier to locate them now. And my Mercury WUP ended in Sep. Here ya go Zo! You get three "Skins" Light, Dark, Legacy. As you can see, they new GUI looks much better and are bigger. May i ask the same for other , the rchannel is easy to enhance but i wonder if we really gain with stuff like rcomp or rbass ...ect .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musical Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) I've been very lucky. A large proportion of my Waves plugins are due to lose their WUP in the first few days of November... I'd hate to be a Mac user and reliant on Waves plugins. Edited October 28, 2019 by musical 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) Here ya'll go. These are a good representation of the new Ren plugins. I like them! On the REQ they have a button that turns the EQ bands on one at a time or show all at the same time. And they have an analyzer for the eq too. Edited October 28, 2019 by Grem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, musical said: I've been very lucky. A large proportion of my Waves plugins are due to lose their WUP in the first few days of November... I'd hate to be a Mac user and reliant on Waves plugins. 1 minute ago, Grem said: Here ya'll go. These are a good representation of the new Ren plugins. I like them! Grem , you simply rock ... thks !!! ok no so big but at least usable on a touch screen !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Zo said: ok no so big but at least usable on a touch screen !! I don't have a big touch screen. All I have is a Surface Pro 3. Screen ain't that big. But I could see you using them on a touch screen. More so than the old legacy versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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