Moon OverSea Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 29 minutes ago, David Pollock said: Thanks. I found them. Wasn't looking through the Kontakt menu. When you search for them, nothing comes up. Majestica has a Ultra version included in the Composer Bundle while a Professional version in the NI bundle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 11 minutes ago, Bapu said: Because of the first world problem of NI not saving your installers for you, but 8Dio do. That said, it's not too hard to just go to the instrument folder and zip it up if someone really wanted a local backup; I've done it a few times. You lose the structure (e.g. a zip for instrument files, a zip for samples, etc), but the overall content is the same. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, David Pollock said: My question is, how good are these libraries and how well do they work with Sonar? I've never used them. And have they been discontinued by 8Dio? I could not find them on their website. The libraries are KONTAKT libraries -- and in this case, they work in the free KONTAKT Player, so you don't need to own the full, paid version of KONTAKT to use them and KONTAKT works great in Cakewalk and Sonar, it's my go to sampler. 8Dio is one of the major sample developers in the business, used by A LOT of pro composers of films, trailers, TV, and games -- as well as a lot of hobbyists. I've consulted to three dozen sample and plugin developers, including 8Dio. I find the 8Dio folks extremely passionate about their work. I own some of the included libraries, but not as KONTAKT Player libraries. Personally, I like using NI's Native Access to install and maintain sample libraries. I find it convenient. Of course, I think these 8Dio libraries using the KONTAKT player is great news for people who don't already own the full version of KONTAKT. Edited May 9 by PavlovsCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Fowler Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Bapu said: I have: Abbey Road One Albion 1 Albion Colossus BBCSO Pro/Pro Piano EW Composer Cloud Sonuscore The Orchestra 3 NI's Orchestra in Komplete 14 CE Studio One's Symphony Stuff Bitwig's Orchestral Tools Orchestra Do I need this bundle too? Does it matter? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Bapu said: I have: Abbey Road One Albion 1 Albion Colossus BBCSO Pro/Pro Piano EW Composer Cloud Sonuscore The Orchestra 3 NI's Orchestra in Komplete 14 CE Studio One's Symphony Stuff Bitwig's Orchestral Tools Orchestra Do I need this bundle too? I think to be consistent with your past buying patterns, you don't already own this, therefore you must by it. I kid, I kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Bapu said: I have: Abbey Road One Albion 1 Albion Colossus BBCSO Pro/Pro Piano EW Composer Cloud Sonuscore The Orchestra 3 NI's Orchestra in Komplete 14 CE Studio One's Symphony Stuff Bitwig's Orchestral Tools Orchestra Do I need this bundle too? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 59 minutes ago, Craig Fowler said: Does it matter? ? 44 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said: I think to be consistent with your past buying patterns, you don't already own this, therefore you must by it. I kid, I kid. 44 minutes ago, Yan Filiatrault said: Ok I get the hint. Installed! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Fowler Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Bapu said: Ok I get the hint. Installed! Dude, it wasn't an instruction! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, Craig Fowler said: Dude, it wasn't an instruction! ? But if we would have come right out and said, "Don't buy this!" Bapu would have felt like, "Hey, no one tells me what to do!" It was posted. It exists. Hence, it was in the cards that Bapu would soon be installing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Fowler Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said: But if we would have come right out and said, "Don't buy this!" Bapu would have felt like, "Hey, no one tells me what to do!" It was posted. It exists. Hence, it was in the cards that Bapu would soon be installing it. He must have a server farm that would put Google to shame! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 12 minutes ago, Craig Fowler said: He must have a server farm that would put Google to shame! The NSA rents space from Bapu! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Craig Fowler said: He must have a server farm that would put Google to shame! Nuttin' that fancy. I only have 16tb samples drive (actual size is really only 13.5tb) but I only have 5tb free. I'll probably get another one soon, based on the "no less than 20% free" rule for spinner drives. Edited May 9 by Bapu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 26 minutes ago, Bapu said: Nuttin' that fancy. I only have 16tb samples drive (actual size is really only 13.5tb) but I only have 5tb free. I'll probably get another one soon, based on the "no less than 20% free" rule for spinner drives. What a lightweight. I probably have that much with various HDDs. I still have some WD Blue 320GB. That was when drives rarely broke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 4 hours ago, antler said: That said, it's not too hard to just go to the instrument folder and zip it up if someone really wanted a local backup; I've done it a few times. You lose the structure (e.g. a zip for instrument files, a zip for samples, etc), but the overall content is the same. Meh. I like downloading zip files then I can extract at my leisure. Those go to a drive instead of dealing with the all or nothing. I wouldn't do it your way. I just multi span a library in 6GB sizes. I'll take extract over installed then archive. I was going to do that with HOOPUS but I'll just copy it to another drive and not zip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Thinking Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 7 hours ago, kitekrazy said: "Once downloaded from Asshat, the files get deleted. Imagine having to download everything again in Asshat." I'm using Windows, can't say how it looks for Mac. It's been a while since I've downloaded something using Native Access but when you start the download, two files are created in the temporary download folder. One is a small text sort of file that contains the name of the library, I forget the file extension name is, and the other is the sample library/Kontakt files in an .iso file, let's call it SuperestEpicestStrings.iso. The text file refers to this file name in order to start the installation process after the file download is completed and then deletes the .iso. A few seconds after the download starts I just rename the .iso file to something else so change it from SuperestEpicestStrings.iso to whatever you want, strings.iso for example. The end file extension .iso must remain the same or doom. The downloading of the .iso file still continues uninterrupted even with the name change though in Windows when changing the name the file in Windows Explorer refreshes every perhaps 5 seconds or so. You have an approx. 5 second window to rename the file or it refreshes and whatever you typed is lost and it goes back to the original name. So, strings.iso finishes downloading, the accompanying text file is referred to by Native Access and the two .iso names do not match causing an error message to pop up stating installation failed. Strings.iso does not get automatically deleted and now you can back it up. To install, double click on it, Windows mounts the .iso as another drive letter and you can run the installation, setup.exe type file from there as usual. Unmount when completed (right click on the new drive letter and unmount) and then you can move the .iso to external storage. Click on the refresh button in Native Access, it'll rescan the installation folder and should update itself to now show that SuperEpicestStrings has been installed. If it does not do so then close Native Access and open it again to force it to rescan that way. I don't think I've forgotten anything for details but if so it should be pretty easy to figure out or I can go through it again to see what I missed. If you rename the small text file instead of the .iso file that is downloading then it will abort the initial download and start a new one with the original name so only rename the .iso file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 30 minutes ago, Endless Thinking said: Meh. Somehow I miss that 5 second window. It also takes more than 5 secs to copy an 80gb file. Sad we have to come up with half assed work arounds for half assed distribution. This is the new NI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taller Than Penguins Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 FWIW I reached out to 8Dio to see if I could get the NKS assets as I already own most of these. They responded that NI manages this version of the libraries so… sigh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Thinking Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 20 hours ago, kitekrazy said: Meh. Somehow I miss that 5 second window. It also takes more than 5 secs to copy an 80gb file. Sad we have to come up with half assed work arounds for half assed distribution. This is the new NI. I meant that there's about a 5 second window to rename the file before it refreshes and reverts to the old name, not to copy/move the file. In the example below I can currently type and rename the Diagnostics folder and I can take my time because it is just an inactive folder. But when it is an active download I am only able to keep this rename mode active for 4 or 5 seconds then the file name refreshes, rename/edit mode is ended, what I was typing was lost and the original name is kept. You only need to rename the file name, that's all. Then wait for it to complete the download. It will not auto-delete afterwards because it will fail to start the installation process (which is what deletes the file afterwards). I have done this many times and my background is that I work in an IT department. This process does work though perhaps it is my instructions that lacked clarity. The key is to make the auto-install fail by renaming the .iso file so the completed download remains. Then manually run the installer and when completed the .iso file can be backed up. I remember what I do now. I rename the "library name".iso file by adding one letter at the end of it like X, e.g. CenturyBrassX.iso. It causes the auto install to fail and it leaves the library name intact so I know what it is. I hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technostica Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 You can use an app to automatically copy any files that are added to a chosen folder to another location. It worked perfectly when I tried it alongside NA. If you are copying to a slow drive then I’m not sure if it will be a problem or whether the OS will block NA from deleting a file that is being copied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 On 5/9/2024 at 12:54 PM, Moon OverSea said: Majestica has a Ultra version included in the Composer Bundle while a Professional version in the NI bundle. The 8dio team did me a deal. They allowed me to get Ultra for the diff in price between Pro and Ultra. The downside of Ultra it is not NKS. But it installed in a different area on my samples drive so maybe I can use either one where needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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