gmp Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Hey abacab thanks for the old Cakewalk account link. I assumed after 2 years of CbB, it would not work anymore. I know Noel said we'd have access to that for a while but couldn't say how long. I hope it's permanent. Although it's doubtful I'd need it since I have downloaded the files on a regular basis over the years and still have all my CD's and DVD's, since 1992. It's still very good for all the users in case they need something. With my initial problems with TTS-1, I was wondering if I needed to download something, but I've got it working fine now. My suspicion is since the crash was happening as soon as you'd hit a midi note on your keyboard that it had something to do with the settings on the midi track, most likely the midi input. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, gmp said: Hey abacab thanks for the old Cakewalk account link. I assumed after 2 years of CbB, it would not work anymore. I know Noel said we'd have access to that for a while but couldn't say how long. I hope it's permanent. Although it's doubtful I'd need it since I have downloaded the files on a regular basis over the years and still have all my CD's and DVD's, since 1992. It's still very good for all the users in case they need something. With my initial problems with TTS-1, I was wondering if I needed to download something, but I've got it working fine now. My suspicion is since the crash was happening as soon as you'd hit a midi note on your keyboard that it had something to do with the settings on the midi track, most likely the midi input. As we used to say, "if it ain't broke, then don't fix it!". But then again, it always made me uneasy whenever something "magically" fixed itself... Edited February 16, 2020 by abacab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark skinner Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 My old programs were boxed "32 bit only" from the early XP days. Nothing from the command center. I just wanted to know how to tell if CbB was using the 64 or the 32 bit version of TTS since they are both installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mark skinner said: My old programs were boxed "32 bit only" from the early XP days. Nothing from the command center. I just wanted to know how to tell if CbB was using the 64 or the 32 bit version of TTS since they are both installed. I believe CbB requires the 64-bit version of TTS-1 (included), as it is not a VST (it's a DXi plugin). CbB will ignore a 32-bit DXi, even if present on the system. But as far as VST plugins are concerned, Cakewalk will use its proprietary BitBridge to include 32-bit VST plugins. Edited February 16, 2020 by abacab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, mark skinner said: My old programs were boxed "32 bit only" from the early XP days. I assume you are referring to the Windows XP days, before Sonar was published as a native 64-bit application (I can't remember the version that changed that...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark skinner Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Yes , old programs I've used since windows 98 and XP were the norms. I went to plugin mngr. and checked my scan path. Showing up as C not C x86 . Looking at the files , I've got the same exact .Dll files for the 64 bit CbB as I do for my old 32 bit programs , nothing telling me about 32 or 64 bit , so I guess my question is still unanswered. I think we've about beaten this topic to death , but their may be some clues here somewhere. Thanks for your help ... mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, mark skinner said: Yes , old programs I've used since windows 98 and XP were the norms. I went to plugin mngr. and checked my scan path. Showing up as C not C x86 . Looking at the files , I've got the same exact .Dll files for the 64 bit CbB as I do for my old 32 bit programs , nothing telling me about 32 or 64 bit , so I guess my question is still unanswered. I think we've about beaten this topic to death , but their may be some clues here somewhere. Thanks for your help ... mark The Cakewalk browser panel shows a very clear indication of 32-bit or 64-bit plugins if you just look in there... Edited February 17, 2020 by abacab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Mackay Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Thought I had something, but now I can't make it crash, no matter how I try. In a new, empty project. But adding to existing project with other tracks, synths, it crashes. Except if I delete some of the instruments. Then it doesn't crash. While TTS-1 is still there, I put those instruments back. Still doesn't crash. Remove that instance of TTS-1 and add a new one, Still doesn't crash. Save and close. Reopen. It crashes. At last some info for support. Edited April 18, 2020 by Nigel Mackay New info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmp Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Nigel Mackay said: Thought I had something, but now I can't make it crash, no matter how I try. In a new, empty project. But adding to existing project with other tracks, synths, it crashes. Except if I delete some of the instruments. Then it doesn't crash. While TTS-1 is still there, I put those instruments back. Still doesn't crash. Remove that instance of TTS-1 and add a new one, Still doesn't crash. Save and close. Reopen. It crashes. At last some info for support. You say "if I delete some of the instruments". Do you mean you delete all the soft synths or some? Or delete other TS-1's? What exactly are you deleting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Mackay Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Other synths. I added TTS-1 to a project I am working on, and it crashed. That's what started me experimenting. Does TTS-1 work if it is alone in a project. Does it work if there are only a few other synths. Does the order they are added make a difference. Will it work if the number of synths is reduced after adding it. But even if I could get it to work saving closing and reopening a project cause it to crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlefteris Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) Just get EDIROL HyperCanvas VST which is identical to TTS-1 and it works, it has DXi and VST plugins, use the VST. I would suggest to the devs to remove TTS-1 from the Cakewalk installer, it's useless. Edited August 14, 2021 by vlefteris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, vlefteris said: Just get EDIROL HyperCanvas VST which is identical to TTS-1 and it works, it has DXi and VST plugins, use the VST. I would suggest to the devs to remove TTS-1 from the Cakewalk installer, it's useless. EDIROL HyperCanvas VST appears to be have been released the same year as TTS-1, just with a different skin. And it's no longer officially available... The only thing that I am aware of still officially supported by Roland is "Sound Canvas VA", only available through Roland Cloud. Subscription, or lifetime license ($69) is available, but you must re-activate online either weekly or maybe monthly now. https://www.roland.com/us/products/rc_sound_canvas_va/ Their basic cloud membership is free, and entitles you to purchase a lifetime license for an instrument. I joined with the intent of picking up the virtual JV-1080, but decided not to because of their crazy Roland Cloud Manager licensing scheme... wish they would just do it like Korg did with their Korg Collection 3 and Software Pass installer... ? Edited August 14, 2021 by abacab 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 There's only about 552, 000 GM sound sets out there. Find one that works and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, bdickens said: There's only about 552, 000 GM sound sets out there. Find one that works and be done with it. I've got a real hardware Roland JV-1080 rack synth with an excellent GM set, but I'm too lazy to hook it up nowadays... Whenever I need to open a GM file, I just rely on TTS-1 to get me started, then I replace all the tracks with modern samplers like SampleTank or Kontakt, and then delete TTS-1 from the project. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.r Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Same here. TTS-1 is invaluable for dirty quick sketches. It is a little buggy though so I avoid using it in final projects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William W. Saunders, Jr. Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 11 hours ago, abacab said: wish they would just do it like Korg did with their Korg Collection 3 and Software Pass installer... ? Yeah, I love having that Korg collection and easily loading up the M1 VST with my old Programs and Combis using sysex data stored in Cakewalk. Works flawlessly and sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 19 hours ago, William W. Saunders, Jr. said: Yeah, I love having that Korg collection and easily loading up the M1 VST with my old Programs and Combis using sysex data stored in Cakewalk. Works flawlessly and sounds great. Yep, it seems that Korg tried to keep it pure with their virtual versions. I have several old Roland romplers, including the JV-1080, but It seems that Roland has possibly not been faithful to the originals. I have tried to follow a long and confusing thread on the topic over at KVR, but I'm still not sure what you get with Roland cloud. Some have claimed that the JV-1080 and the XV-5080 virtual versions share the exact same emulations... WTH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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