satya Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 https://youtu.be/dbUeijTc880 That's Andrew Huang https://www.ableton.com/en/push/ https://www.musicradar.com/news/ableton-push-3-standalone-live In this case that hardware is Push 3, the latest version of the company’s pad-based instrument. A controller-only version has also been announced, with the option to upgrade it to support standalone usage at a later date. Push 3 offers 64 MPE-capable pads that can detect finger pressure and placement across the X and Y axes for fine, per-note control The controller version of Push 3 has a built-in audio interface and CV/gate connectivity for hooking up to Eurorack and other modular gear. As you’d expect, MIDI is here, too. Push 3 is available now with prices set at $1,999/€1,899 for the standalone model and $999/€949 for the controller version. The upgrade kit will be available later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Thank you, but no. I’ll keep my Push 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satya Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/ableton-push-3 Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jngnz Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 MPE for pads? WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Roger Lynn's Linstrument is cheaper and not locked to a specific DAW or workflow. It's also completely cross platform, as all the configurations for it are done on the controller itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projectm Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Looks like a serious piece of kit. I’ll stick to my Maschine but if I was a serious Live user I’d be all over this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blanc Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, projectm said: Looks like a serious piece of kit. I’ll stick to my Maschine but if I was a serious Live user I’d be all over this! Well, that's just it, I feel you have to be a very serious Live user ánd/or use this live (note the lack of a capital l) to justify the price fully. I don't know, but €949 for a MIDI controller is serious money. Even if it is MPE. If it was 200-300 less I probably would buy it and sell my Push 2. I will stick with my Push 2 for now. Which I don't use enough as it is. If i were to perform live (well I do, but not yet with the Push or Ableton's session view), this would be a very tempting piece of kit though. I hate the word gamechanger, but at least I have the feeling they are raising the bar and setting a standard here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Standalone is nice ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 MPE functions are great. An i3 NUC powering the standalone features is going to be a bit under-powered (compared to most DAWs). Push-2 was ~$800... so a couple hundred more for MPE function doesn't seem out of line. $2000 for the stand-alone model seems about right... but I agree that it's primarily going to appeal to the Live power-user. IMO, $2000 MIDI controller keyboard (with similar features- that could be used with Live and other DAWs), would have more broad appeal. MPE is still early in development. There's a lot of room left for someone to create the perfect balance between tradition/evolution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spice3d Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Sold my Push 2 just in time. I had a feeling this was coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Verstraten Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, Spice3d said: Sold my Push 2 just in time. I had a feeling this was coming. It's a good time to buy a second hand Push 2 then. I see a lot of popping up on Reverb since the announcement , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spice3d Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, Sander Verstraten said: It's a good time to buy a second hand Push 2 then. I see a lot of popping up on Reverb since the announcement , Definitely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) Was checking it out... Push 3 and Push 3 Standalone: Out of stock Back in stock in 8+ weeks I'm assuming that it's only available at Ableton.. Edited May 24, 2023 by TheSteven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, TheSteven said: I'm assuming that it's only available at Ableton.. I looked... and couldn't find it anywhere else. Sweetwater says Ableton (as a brand) is no longer available. I assume they've gone to direct only sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno de Souza Lino Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 12 hours ago, Jim Roseberry said: IMO, $2000 MIDI controller keyboard (with similar features- that could be used with Live and other DAWs), would have more broad appeal. If you can survive without the OLED displays and knobs, the smaller Linnstrument (128 version) costs 1 grand and the larger ones costs 1400. They can work on bus power as well and on mobile. They also have open source hardware and software and are class compliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Bruno de Souza Lino said: If you can survive without the OLED displays and knobs, the smaller Linnstrument (128 version) costs 1 grand and the larger ones costs 1400. They can work on bus power as well and on mobile. They also have open source hardware and software and are class compliant. Roger Linn himself demo'd the Linnstrument for me at Gearfest. It was great meeting and talking with him. That was ~3 years ago. I was impressed... so I ordered the larger Linnstrument. MPE was just getting started. Unfortunately, I didn't have time/patience to learn to play it (well). Also had a Roli Seaboard Rise. It was easier to grasp... but I never did get super comfortable playing it. Osmose feels more like playing a traditional keyboard (played one at Sweetwater). Unfortunately, it wasn't (isn't) in-stock to purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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