Brian Walton Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, John1984 said: Either way, my plugins will continue to function. And I will not buy into a subscription plan -- as someone else mentioned, I want to be able to open a session years from now and all of the plugins function as when I saved the project. Respectfully, that is what we all want but is not a guarantee. I've had WAVES plugins break across more than 1 computer and more than one time which meant that without WUP getting support to fix, was not possible. Just becuase the VST3 standard doesn't change - WAVES is still capable of breaking things unless you never update your computer, launch waves central, etc. Unlike other companies, WAVES actually has a track record of occasionally breaking something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Cruz Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) Waves Central right now Edited March 26, 2023 by Walter Cruz i'm dumb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Arwood Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Brian Walton said: Respectfully, that is what we all want but is not a guarantee. I've had WAVES plugins break across more than 1 computer and more than one time which meant that without WUP getting support to fix, was not possible. Just becuase the VST3 standard doesn't change - WAVES is still capable of breaking things unless you never update your computer, launch waves central, etc. Unlike other companies, WAVES actually has a track record of occasionally breaking something. I have personally experienced a full breakdown caused by waves. Somewhere around V3. It was a disaster. A few years later, I went back. It has been good for years till now! I will not pay yearly. I have no subscriptions of any kind. (Excluding the water and electric lol) is 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) From the FAQ: Is Waves Creative Access the only way to get Waves plugins now? “Yes, as of March 26, 2023, Waves Creative Access subscriptions are the only way to get Waves plugins. Of course, if you purchased Waves plugins previously, you continue to own them (at the latest version you had prior to the launch of Waves Creative Access).“ Edited March 26, 2023 by Lionel 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Iglesias Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Goodbye Waves. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 The Web site does still have the Register New Products page working if any of you need to register some licenses before it's too late. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT music Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Unfortunately, end users are still the fools to pay countless times for the same software, hopefully one day they will implement some kind of law that prohibits this, until then we will have to put up with these companies that continue taking advantage of their commercial reputation to continue legally defrauding innocent customers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) Well, many threads and posts later, we have our answers. My guess is that Waves move to subscription only will be short lived, and hopefully, before our plugins stop working, they'll switch back to subscription and perpetual licenses. Until then, there are plenty of great alternatives to Waves and those are the developers I'll continue to support and even if Waves goes back to perpetual licenses before the end of the year, after this, I won't be buying from Waves again. Edited March 26, 2023 by PavlovsCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) Now that’s what you call a deal-breaker. Luckily for us, there are TONS of plugin alternatives. It really sucks that I heavily invested in Waves during the last BF/CM sale Adios, Waves! You put your own nail in your coffin. Edited March 26, 2023 by Lionel 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triangleman Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Of course the other victim in all this is the poor Waves employee who did all the weekly stupid sales deal marketing stuff and got laid off. Unless they start doing sales on subscription prices! Not enough value for my needs in those annual rates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) For me, the worst part about this whole thing is I had been working on a video about how I actually like the WUP now (no joke - I have my reasons lol!) but I was too slow to make it and now it's gone. Edited March 26, 2023 by Luc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Congrats WAVES, this is actually worse than I anticipated, and my expectations were beyond low. Hopefully someone comes up with an alternative to ClarityVX as that is the only thing I care about from WAVES 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Their new Studio Verse seems interesting. An AI will scan your track and recommend a chain of mixing among those available from pros and users in their community. Just not worth subscribing for this. At least, since I’m on Windows, all my Waves perpetual plugins should continue to work in their current state in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said: Well, many threads and posts later, we have our answers. My guess is that Waves move to subscription only will be short lived, and hopefully, before our plugins stop working, they'll switch back to subscription and perpetual licenses. Until then, there are plenty of great alternatives to Waves and those are the developers I'll continue to support and even if Waves goes back to perpetual licenses before the end of the year, after this, I won't be buying from Waves again. Yes, I hope they reverse track on this decision and bring back the perpetual license option. A good example of the subscription model not working is Reason+. Reason Studios tries to get users to jump on the Reason+ subscriptions, but customers adamantly refuse. They only want perpetual licenses. And that's why you see Reason Studios heavily discounting R+ every few months to $1 for a month. And that's why RS continues to have perpetual licenses. So, stay the course and DON'T SUBSCRIBE to WCA, folks. They'll start to feel the pinch in their wallets and hopefully bring back perpetual licenses. Edited March 26, 2023 by Lionel 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1984 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Yan Filiatrault said: At least, since I’m on Windows, all my Waves perpetual plugins should continue to work in their current state in the future. As Brian rightfully pointed out, until they don't. Seeing the landscape around them, it's not surprising they went to multi-tiered subscription. What I do find unconscionable is the manner in which this was handled, and how updates will (apparently) be handled. Frankly, the first thing that came to my mind was: the only way I can download, install, and activate my Waves plugins is the Waves Access app. As far as I can tell, I cannot download an archive of the installers, nor an authorization file. Given the way they handled this, I don't trust them to maintain access to perpetual licenses. Nothing good can come from this. Edited March 26, 2023 by John1984 typos 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclarry Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/waves-new-subscription-only-plans-everything-you-need-to-know 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTP Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Let's hope this will be a massive commercial failure so other companies don't try to do the same. Luckily I've only bought one plugin from Waves. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclarry Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Well...for ME...it's GOODBYE WAVES! Don't let the door hitcha where the good Lord splitcha! 7 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 As somebody who was ok with the WUP system I think this UNANNOUNCED change is outrageous not sure what this means for my massive investment in Waves products - Mercury, SSL, Abbey Road etc ? I'm out 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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