Johnbee58 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just checked the Sweetwater website. This afternoon they still carried Waves plugins. Now they're all empty pages. I despise them (Waves) now. I personally hope they lose so much business that they go belly up. This has to be one of the most underhanded business decisions I've ever seen a company do. It actually makes me question whether I want to continue making music like this. I'm just a hobbyist. I can't afford $300.00 a year for a damned subscription for anything! I know some of you will say that there are alternatives. Yes, there certainly are plenty of alternatives but I put HUNDREDS of dollars into what I have from them over the years and to realize that they may become useless soon. When that happens I'm done. I've had enough. It's not worth the frustration anymore. If they can do this, who knows what's next? I quit the whole damned thing! ? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1984 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Johnbee58 said: Just checked the Sweetwater website. This afternoon they still carried Waves plugins. Now they're all empty pages. I despise them (Waves) now. I personally hope they lose so much business that they go belly up. This has to be one of the most underhanded business decisions I've ever seen a company do. It actually makes me question whether I want to continue making music like this. I'm just a hobbyist. I can't afford $300.00 a year for a damned subscription for anything! I know some of you will say that there are alternatives. Yes, there certainly are plenty of alternatives but I put HUNDREDS of dollars into what I have from them over the years and to realize that they may become useless soon. When that happens I'm done. I've had enough. It's not worth the frustration anymore. If they can do this, who knows what's next? I quit the whole damned thing! ? To varying degrees, you've captured the general feeling one gets from reading a number of forums and the posts regarding this cluster. I'd put money on Waves changing course on selling perpetual licenses and WUP within 30 days, but I don't believe it's going to save this company. The problem, as I see it, is the pooch is as screwed as one can imagine. This was such a galactically stupid way of handling it from one end to the other. I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I'd put $100 down on Soundwide owning Waves within twelve months. As an aside, if I were pro-tools-expert.com, I'm not sure I'd be that excited about having the scoop so very well prepared today. Edited March 27, 2023 by John1984 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Well, for one who disliked WUP for many years, this is as low as they could blow. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) Hopefully IK never goes that route but they are also in the hardware business. If Waves reverts back I doubt there will be enough forgiveness. Nothing like giving the end user a large middle finger. Another reason for them not to revert back is stuffed shirts wont give up their pride. We often overlook the plugins in our DAWs. What is also overlooked is now there will be an increase of piracy. Hackers like challenges. Small developers are where it's at. See Boz, TGR, Melda, and of course Fab Filter. Edited March 27, 2023 by kitekrazy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig N Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Well I got one thing right. They got rid of WUP. WUPs time was up. I've bought over $550 worth of Waves abandonware it seems. But if I'm honest, I hardly use any of it. So I guess I'm just glad I didn't WUP or upgrade to Mercury. I think with the amount of backlash they're facing, they might pull a Bitwig and reverse course. But maybe it's all just part of the plan to drum up more sales? Take away perpetual sales temporarily to sell a few subs, then give in to customer demand and bring back perpetual sales later. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vst0nE Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 anyone went for sub yet.....? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I wonder what those guys who got Mercury last week are thinking. Come to think of it, I was almost one of ‘em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vst0nE Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Fleer said: I wonder what those guys who got Mercury last week are thinking. Come to think of it, I was almost one of ‘em. most of us with paid licenses will loose all money invested in waves as at some point with new MAC or WIN systems they will stop be compatible so sooner or later you will not be able to use anyway,,, 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satya Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 If they r going subscribtion they should at least give 3 months free trail to all , and one year free sub who got 200 plugins , along with backward compatibility, i don't think they had thst feature 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawajava Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, husker said: Wow. Cool. Hopeful Waves will do the same thing. Antares went full subscription. Now they offer perpetual and subscription (at least for some products). Edited March 27, 2023 by lawajava 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, Fleer said: I wonder what those guys who got Mercury last week are thinking. Come to think of it, I was almost one of ‘em. Explains why sales were so good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just noticed that Waves Abbey Road collection is only available in the "Ultimate" sub. Great to know that owning the perpetual version of Abbey Road will save me $25/mo... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, abacab said: Just noticed that Waves Abbey Road collection is only available in the "Ultimate" sub. Great to know that owning the perpetual version of Abbey Road will save me $25/mo... As for me, great to know I sold it just in time. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMcGuitar Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 2 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxiousmofo Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 What a stupid AF company. I’m trying to laugh but I think I’ll just crap in the corner. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 What if this is just a really early April fools joke? 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Fleer said: Well, for one who disliked WUP for many years, this is as low as they could blow. Waves... "Hold my beer.. you think this is as low as we could go?! You should see the next shady idea we've got planned. Our slogan at Waves is "We hate customers, upsetting Waves of them at a time, wherever we can"" 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Unbelievable. Just Unbelievable. 1 hour ago, Anxiousmofo said: What a stupid AF company. I’m trying to laugh but I think I’ll just crap in the corner. Yep. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Verstraten Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Can't wait for the ad with CLA promoting the hell out of it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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