Brian Walton Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, cclarry said: https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/production-expert-1/waves-new-subscription-only-plans-everything-you-need-to-know WOW...not even publishing how this is going to work for those that will never Sub. Will Installing Waves Creative Access Deactivate My Perpetual Licences? Waves users who have purchased perpetually licenced plugins are still theirs to use indefinitely. Users who want to continue using perpetual licences for purchased products should consult with Waves support pages before upgrading to Waves Creative Access. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) If Waves were SMART, which they obviously are NOT, they would have given all ACTIVE plugins a FREE YEAR, thus allowing users to "adapt", but NOPE...TADA....PAY US MORE! Edited March 26, 2023 by cclarry 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin H. Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Pro-tools-expert have some more information. I particularly like this Quote Some Waves users who own bundles will be able to get between 1-2 months for free. So my mercury/abbeyroad/ssl etc gets me 2 months free - and I'm supposed to be grateful and continue to spend money with them. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) What's scandalous is the fact that Waves.com kept on selling plugins(perpetual licenses) up until the deadline. Seriously??? That's a messed up move on their part. No notice or warning on their own website whatsoever. I feel for the unsuspecting customers who may have made purchases right before the deadline. They should have at least put a notice/warning on their website with something like: "Please note: If you make a purchase on Waves.com before March 26th, your plugin will only be supported for the current version only. Your plugin will not be supported in any future updates/versions, unless you purchase our new subscription service (Details to be announced on March 27, 2023)." Edited March 26, 2023 by Lionel 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1984 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, simon said: So my mercury/abbeyroad/ssl etc gets me 2 months free - and I'm supposed to be grateful and continue to spend money with them. I'd be especially concerned about this section: "Will Installing Waves Creative Access Deactivate My Perpetual Licences? Waves users who have purchased perpetually licenced plugins are still theirs to use indefinitely. Users who want to continue using perpetual licences for purchased products should consult with Waves support pages before upgrading to Waves Creative Access." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMcGuitar Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Well, thankfully, I'm done with waves. Lot of wasted money with them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibby Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Good thing I finally got my v9 licenses working again yesterday after the latest Central update and/or Studio One update. Regardless, they work now and I can uninstall Waves Central to make sure I never get another update from them that breaks things again. I have v9-v14 now. I wonder if it's too late to download ALL the offline installers? PS. I'm sorry, but this is just a plain stupid move. WHY would Waves cut the perpetual license revenue (and users)?? Why not add the subscription as an option and try to get people to warm to the idea? This just pisses off a whole swath of user base that has been customers for years and years. It makes no sense. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 $15.00 a month! They can stick THAT where the sun don't shine! ? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Iglesias Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Money thrown away, but you learn from your mistakes. Waves won't see a penny from me even if I reverse this policy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) Let's use this thread to share the names of developers we love that have replaced Waves plugins for us. For me, Sonible. Izotope, Softube, Eventide, Arturia, the various devs through Plugin Alliance....I have yet to buy SSL stuff, but I have a musician friend who really knows mixing who has urged me to get their stuff. Between cclarry, Bapu and Fleer, those guys own everything and we can just ask their opinions! The recommendations I've received from many forum members here have been really high quality. I rarely spend time at other music forums because of all of that and the many friendly people here. In the end, I have 30+ Waves plugins and I'm going to try to use alternatives -- so that one year from now, if I open an old project, I don't have a Waves plugin that stopped working. Edited March 26, 2023 by PavlovsCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott H Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 It's time to WAVE goodbye! 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbee58 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said: Let's use this thread to share the names of developers we love that have replaced Waves plugins for us. For me, Sonible. Izotope, Softube, Eventide, Arturia, the various devs through Plugin Alliance....I have yet to buy SSL stuff, but I have a musician friend who really knows mixing who has urged me to get their stuff. Between cclarry, Bapu and Fleer, those guys own everything and we can just ask their opinions! The recommendations I've received from many forum members here have been really high quality. I rarely spend time at other music forums because of all of that and the many friendly people here. In the end, I have 30+ Waves plugins and I'm going to try to use alternatives -- so that one year from now, if an. open an old project I don't have a Waves plugin that stopped working. Hopefully they realize the mistake they made doing this and re open the perpetual license option again before what we have becomes useless. Even if they do I'll never buy another plugin from them EVER! BTW-Sweetwater is still selling their perpetual licenses. Maybe just because it's Sunday. I'll have to check with them tomorrow first thing. ?JB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 I posted this on the Waves Official Fakebook Page Whoever thought of this should be drawn and quartered! 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said: Let's use this thread to share the names of developers we love that have replaced Waves plugins for us. For me, Sonible. Izotope, Softube, Eventide, Arturia, the various devs through Plugin Alliance....I have yet to buy SSL stuff, but I have a musician friend who really knows mixing who has urged me to get their stuff. Between cclarry, Bapu and Fleer, those guys own everything and we can just ask their opinions! The recommendations I've received from many forum members here have been really high quality. I rarely spend time at other music forums because of all of that and the many friendly people here. In the end, I have 30+ Waves plugins and I'm going to try to use alternatives -- so that one year from now, if an. open an old project I don't have a Waves plugin that stopped working. Totally agree! For me, my main Waves alternatives are: Plugin Alliance IK Multimedia Softube Arturia D16 Melda Universal Audio As for someone that just recently purchased a bunch of Waves plugins, I'm actually not going to use them for the same reasons you just mentioned. I'm just going to take that temporary hit and move on. As one of my favorite TV Show characters, Barney Fife, would say... "Nip it in the bud." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 PS...for those who don't know...this is part of "The Great Reset" (and YES...it's REAL) in which their OFFICIAL, VERIFIED, stated Motto is "You'll own NOTHING...and you'll be happy!" 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, cclarry said: PS...for those who don't know...this is part of "The Great Reset" (and YES...it's REAL) in which their OFFICIAL, VERIFIED, stated Motto is "You'll own NOTHING...and you'll be happy!" seriously ?!? - where does it say that ? it's almost funny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technostica Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, cclarry said: I posted this on the Waves Official Fakebook Page Whoever thought of this should be drawn and quartered! That's just not right Larry. Surely you mean, "hung, drawn and quartered". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trager Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Triangleman said: Unless they start doing sales on subscription prices! Buy two subscriptions, get two free, but you have to choose the free ones FROM THIS LIST we scribbled on the back of a napkin. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin H. Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, cclarry said: PS...for those who don't know...this is part of "The Great Reset" (and YES...it's REAL) in which their OFFICIAL, VERIFIED, stated Motto is "You'll own NOTHING...and you'll be happy!" You'll pay money for owning NOTHING..... MUAHAHAHAHAHA (Evil laughter) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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