charles kasler Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I love the sound of perfect space but there are relatively few controls. Does anyone have any tips or tricks to get more out of it, for things like early reflections or damping? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 most likely not what you were looking for but this was the answer for me https://www.liquidsonics.com/software/reverberate-3/ it can be had on sale for 50% and is well worth it imho. 32 bit might be a consideration. https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/41375-sonar-85-producer-is-there-a-64-bit-version-of-perfectspace/ http://forum.cakewalk.com/Bringing-back-perfect-space-m3502079.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoo Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Or Convology XT - that's free and seems a decent convolution reverb. https://wavearts.com/products/plugins/convology#:~:text=Convology XT is a free convolution reverb%2C the,presets%2C and has tons of IR modification features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tim Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 It's 32 bit but this is basically the big brother of Perfect Space: https://www.voxengo.com/product/pspace/ One thing that this has going for it, that Perfect Space also has, is an offset for the start of the IR, that a lot of the other convolution reverbs don't have. I should probably get around to fixing the actual IR one day, but there's one particular one that I like to use that has a weird chirp at the start of the reverb that is easily fixed by moving the offset a couple of milliseconds later. If you don't have offset, you're kind of stuck with the IR unless you load it into a WAV editor and modify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) IR1 Convolution Reverb $29 "Wembley Arena. Grand Ole Opry. Sydney Opera House. CBGB’s. Birdland. Want to record in the world’s greatest venues? Now you can" https://www.waves.com/plugins/ir1-convolution-reverb Includes IR Convolution Reverb Library (4.8 GB) Edited February 28, 2023 by abacab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 Wow thanks for all those ideas! I will check them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I haven't used convolution reverbs in years, but if memory serves my favorite tricks with Perfect Space were 1) playing with the reverb time and amplitude envelopes, and 2) delaying the start time. And, of course, surfing the interwebs for IRs, of which there are many and most are free to download. Note that IR files are just wav files and therefore universal to all convolution reverbs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoo Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Not to mention using almost random samples just to see what something sounds like (I was just playing around and found that a recording of an electric drill ends up creating an amazing flanger-like sound!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 On 2/28/2023 at 7:29 AM, jackson white said: most likely not what you were looking for but this was the answer for me https://www.liquidsonics.com/software/reverberate-3/ it can be had on sale for 50% and is well worth it imho. 32 bit might be a consideration. https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/41375-sonar-85-producer-is-there-a-64-bit-version-of-perfectspace/ http://forum.cakewalk.com/Bringing-back-perfect-space-m3502079.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 I've just rediscovered rematrix, since I don't use the pro channel very often. So far I've gotten some nice sounds, does anyone know if it's worth upgrading to the full version? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinger Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 I think so. I've been using it for years. And I do tend to use it where I would use PS, although since IKM released Sunset Sound Studio, I use that as well at times. So many reverbs, so little time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm52 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 I use a forest impulse for diffused early reflections. When i'm going big, i use another instance of PS with a cooling tower impulse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 Thanks that's the first I've heard of a forest impulse. I had to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 I'm still working with perfect space. Every time I open it and want to change presets, it sends me back to the documents folder and I have to drill down to the correct folder. It's a small thing but repetitive. Is there any way to keep the correct folder showing up every time I change presets? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Stanton Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) if the app isn't saving the last used folder - maybe create a directory junction in your documents folder (e.g. 0-PSpresets - the 0- forces it to the top when sorting in name order) so it's the first folder when you are in the documents folder. e.g. mklink /J "C:\Users\USERNAME\Documents\0-PSPresets" "C:\Cakewalk Content\Common\Perfect Space Presets". doing this allows you to alias the target folder -- shortcuts don't support aliasing per se although you can rename them, the sort ordering doesn't always work as expected... Edited March 6, 2023 by Glenn Stanton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 Great idea, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) On 3/6/2023 at 8:21 AM, charles kasler said: I'm still working with perfect space. Playing with fire, there. Not recommended. It's 32 bit, its manufacturer deprecated it long ago. It's a matter of time before it will simply stop working in Cakewalk, and other hosts as well. For free, you can have REMatrix or MConvolutionEZ. For pay, there's MConvolutionMB. Wait for it to come around at half price in MeldaProduction's weekly "Eternal Madness" sale. That shouldn't take more than a few months. If you're a first time buyer you can get it for under $10 by waiting for the signing up for their newsletter ($10 credit), waiting for the sale (50% off list price) and using a referral code (MELDA65032871) for another 20% off the list price. I guarantee that MConvolutionMB will give you more control over the various parameters than you could ever use. That's just how their stuff is. It's also said to be light on resource use for a convolution. Here's a shot with both a "device" view and some of the underlying parameters. I think it will address your "relatively few controls" issue: Edited July 23, 2023 by Starship Krupa 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles kasler Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 Thank you I will check it out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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