Frank Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 All Waves serial numbers must be registered by March 26, 2023 Hi , Due to an upcoming change in our authorization & registration systems, Monday, March 26, 2023 will be the last day to register product serial codes that have not yet been registered. This includes: •Plugins, bundles, upgrades, and hardware/software combos purchased via Waves dealers but not yet registered. •Free products given during special promotions. •Any other case where you may have received a Waves product serial code but didn’t yet register it. Waves serial numbers cannot be registered after March 26, 2023. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Frank said: Due to an upcoming change in our authorization & registration systems That phrase doesn't fill me with confidence. Wonder what complications are going to await us. Probably trying to fix leakage... I.E. serial #'s that got out, were hacked, etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheSteven said: That phrase doesn't fill me with confidence. Wonder what complications are going to await us. Probably trying to fix leakage... I.E. serial #'s that got out, were hacked, etc. Once you register it the WUP thing starts - they know there is a good percentage of people they will trap into a WUP payment once registered. It cuts down on resale of serial numbers - once registered there is basically no chance of you reselling that code as it becomes worthless between wup and transfer fees They may not be actually changing anything other than putting in that line in the sand on the back end with serials that were previously sent out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 What? First WUP and now this? Okay, got to sell my unregistered serials for the Abbey Road Collection, Codex, Element 2 and all that jazz … 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I imagine there are many people that have been collecting serials from their freebie giveaways for resale later. This is probably Waves attempt to stop that "gray" market. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxed Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 How is this even enforceable or even legal? That means if you bought a Waves product from a reseller and somehow forget to register it before March 26 you will lose your money. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Fleer said: What? First WUP and now this? Okay, got to sell my unregistered serials for the Abbey Road Collection, Codex, Element 2 and all that jazz … Can I use my PA monthly voucher on your Abbey Road Collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Yan Filiatrault said: Can I use my PA monthly voucher on your Abbey Road Collection? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, abacab said: I imagine there are many people that have been collecting serials from their freebie giveaways for resale later. This is probably Waves attempt to stop that "gray" market. That's what I suspect is at least part of their logic, but this is a really poor tactic to address that problem, IMO. I'm in complete agreement with attempts to crack down on individuals who scam the system by use of multiple free email accounts to grab free serials during giveaways in order to sell them later. But they could address that problem a lot better without negatively impacting legit folks like someone who had Waves pluguns bundled with some hardware device or DAW. As this thread reveals, it doesn't send a great message to their customers. WUP has already led to me rarely buying Waves plugins anymore. On the upside, Waves has had a major impact on lowering effects pricing in the industry. So thanks for that Waves. Edited February 3, 2023 by PavlovsCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 57 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said: On the upside, Waves has had a major impact on lowering effects pricing in the industry. So thanks for that Waves. Yep, there's that! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Well, I’ve been keeping several serials of the same plug-in to register when needed so I don’t have to WUP them. This latest move from Waves, apart from being less than legal, is the final nail on their coffin. WOOOOOOPIEEEEEEE. Bye-bye, Waves. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Fleer said: Well, I’ve been keeping several serials of the same plug-in to register when needed so I don’t have to WUP them. This latest move from Waves, apart from being less than legal, is the final nail on their coffin. WOOOOOOPIEEEEEEE. Bye-bye, Waves. Let February 2, 2023 be known as the day Fleer fell out of sweet, wonderful, blissful love with Waves. I knew it couldn't last! I pretty much stopped buying Waves last year after purchasing Cosmos/CR8 and using it once. I think the only way they could get me again is maybe for a few Abbey Road plugins (I love the ADT plugin, IMO, nothing I have comes close and I have 4 other double tracking plugins). What has made the Waves $29/39 always on sales less attractive to me is that competitors like Softube and Plugin Alliance also sell excellent plugins without an Update Plan and the Waves marketing that goes along with it. A bunch of you guys, including Abacab and Fleer, have posted praise of plugins from developers like Softube and the ones at Plugin Alliance that I've researched, purchased and am now a fan of (still waiting on Fab Filter to have a $29/39 sale -- kidding, I realize that's never going to happen). But I feel like I've moved on from Waves. Edited February 3, 2023 by PavlovsCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said: But I feel like I've moved on from Waves. Aside from my Waves Abbey Road Collection and Scheps Omni Channel, I could probably live without Waves. I like Cosmos/CR8 but I don't do all that much with loops & samples, so probably wouldn't miss that if it ever stopped working. But honestly, the Waves tool that I reach for most often is Scheps Omni Channel. That is handy to have in the toolbox... Edited February 3, 2023 by abacab 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, abacab said: Aside from my Waves Abbey Road Collection and Scheps Omni Channel, I could probably live without Waves. I like Cosmos/CR8 but I don't do all that much with loops & samples, so probably wouldn't miss that if it ever stopped working. But honestly, the Waves tool that I reach for most often is Scheps Omni Channel. That is handy to have in the toolbox... I thought the same about Omni but switched to Amek 9099 and haven't looked back. the one Waves plugin I'm keeping installed is Clarity Vx. I liked the Abbey Road verb but a bit to hungry and stuff like IKM Sunset Sound replaced that kind of need for me (though yes they sound different) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I assume if its in Waves Central but not activated it is registered. Who buys a 2nd hand Waves plugin? Plugin brokers eventually have to run out of naive people that fail to realize stuff often offered for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satya Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 the code that we see below the product name in my account and activation code provided during giveaway is different right? i have many products in my mail i dont know which code is used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 and the next step is than to delete all plugins without WUP ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Sent them a cease and desist letter ? That'll show ‘em ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technostica Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, satya said: the code that we see below the product name in my account and activation code provided during giveaway is different right? i have many products in my mail i dont know which code is used I think there is a single number for Waves licences! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitflipper Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Every once in awhile, I miss some Waves plugin that I used to use. TransX and RBass were once favorites. But they'd routinely stop working because Waves would abruptly decide that my license was no longer valid (e.g. after computer repairs), and the last time that happened I just decided I didn't need Waves anymore. They are more concerned with piracy than with their paying customers. Sorry, but that teenage pirate who wasn't ever going to give you any money anyway isn't my problem. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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