M-Audio Oxygen Pro Mini 32

[msmcleod]

19 hours ago, azslow3 said:

General rule with Cakewalk: always start it with the same MIDI devices connected into the same USB slots. Unfortunately that is not always practical or even not possible (I have several MIDI devices and I don't want switch all of them on every time I start a DAW, I also use different audio devices with different settings and that is real nightmare in all DAWs I use, why even "smartest" DAW developers can't at least remember one set of settings for each interface, better several presets, is a good question...).

The main issue is that Windows doesn't give MIDI devices a unique identifier - all you get is an index number and a name.  If your MIDI interfaces/devices are plugged in to the same ports every time at the time you boot up your PC,  they almost always get given the same index number.  If you arbitrarily plug them in, there's no guarantee the index number will be the same.

Cakewalk uses a the index number give by Windows, then falls back on matching on the name if the index number/name is different from what it was previously.  The problem with a lot of class compliant interfaces, is they come back with exactly the same name.  There's nothing we can do in this scenario.

What Cakewalk doesn't do now (which it used to do), is just re-assign Control Surface ports if it's previously assigned port is missing - it now just disables that control surface.

We've discussed having different configuration presets within Cakewalk - not just for control surfaces, but also for MIDI / audio interfaces etc.  There's nothing scheduled as yet, but I hope this is something we'll see sometime next year. 

[whoisp]

3 hours ago, azslow3 said:

With me you can talk on this forum, my forum, WhatsUp/Skype/Phone.  On this forum you can "talk" to Mark (current supporter of Mackie Control in Cakewalk), Noel (long time Cakewalk developer) and other Cakewalk staff people. That is not the same as "support"  from Novation/Focusrite/M-Audio, where you normally can communicate just with (or throw) the "first level" support (people trained to answer common questions). People here not only know how all that works, but they are also able to modify related parts of the code in case that is required.

You been a massive help, I managed to get the Launch Key 25  MK III working well, does what i want, cakewalk said it would do what i wanted when i asked what i needed it for.  MIDI ACT _ MID LEARN is pretty straight forward depending on how complex you want to be with a controller.  For me totally controlling a DAW with a controller is pointless when your mixing on the PC or mastering. I see a controller for workflow but i guess people want them for different objectives  

[Asato Maa]

This guy described how to work in CakeWalk with M-audio Oxygen Pro Mini

 

[CageCatchum]

On 12/14/2022 at 8:52 AM, whoisp said:

 I have  kept my full size Yamaha keyboard which goes through my interface on the old midi ports which goes through my UMC1820 midi in and midi out, works a dream no problems, however;

i needed more functions, even though my full keys are touch sensitive and  i have sustain peddle  i had no mod or pitch wheel or knobs which come in handy for automation with synth work and sound design. So i ended up getting a the New MIII Novation launchkey 25  USB with pads, pitch wheel and knobs etc

Like anything USB it acts as a storage device so to speak and with Novation, you need to update to the Novation USB drivers which gives you two midi inputs LKMK3 MIDI and MIDIIN2 (LKMK3 MIDI) and two midi outputs the same but different names. Do not ask me why not just one midi in and out i can not get anyone to tell me, i guess maybe a new protocol given its called MIII. However i add both inputs and outputs to see which one works the best but what i have noticed is MIDIIN2 (LKMK3 MIDI) works better with ACT MIDI Controller. 

I added MIDIIN2 (LKMK3 MIDI) as a ACT midi Controller input output and did not setup a Mackie, there is no point its not a Mackie controller and ACT as more functions.  You can see i have full control Synthmaster with the 8 Rotary knobs on Novation launchkey 25, i have full pitch, mod and play record etc which is all i need and created my own template preset, i got there in the end but it was worth it. I got £400 of plugins free with it and only paid £90 for the  MIII Novation launchkey 25 so i am happy

 

 

I see you bought the Novation Launchkey 25 Mk3 a while back and are using it in Cakewalk. Are you happy with it, and would you recommend it for a Cakewalk user? Thanks for the post.

[whoisp]

18 hours ago, CageCatchum said:

I see you bought the Novation Launchkey 25 Mk3 a while back and are using it in Cakewalk. Are you happy with it, and would you recommend it for a Cakewalk user? Thanks for the post.

I love it for a controller, great for navigation of sounds for my workflow instead of siting by big full keys keyboard whilst reaching over to mouse or pc keyboard.

I mainly got it for recording automation with pitch and mod wheels but also the rotatory knobs  to use with my synthmaster plugin. good for arp and bass lines

I do use it also to record comp  when i play electric Guitar and bass so i am not sat by PC but on my guitar stool i prefer playing on or standing up, ive programmed some buttons to undo and bounce whilst playing guitar so i not walking backwards and forwards to pc.   

Basically ive save hours with my work flow  and got good free plugins i use with it and samples haha

 

 

[CageCatchum]

Thank for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated.

[MAKARA]

On 12/13/2022 at 8:52 PM, John P said:

Ok, I have the Oxygen Pro Mini controls working acceptably in Cakewalk now, as a result of further testing and changes to my initial setup outlined above. Main change: I did not define an ACT controller, only the "Mackie Control" included with Cakewalk.  I still notice a few anomalies, and I've only done this on an AMD Ryzen 7 4000 series laptop running Win 10, connected via USB. But I did achieve a repeatable setup process, throwing out all prior controller and midi device settings in the current version of Cakewalk by Bandlabs, and resetting the Pro Mini between setup iterations. 

Here are the M-Audio Oxygen Pro Mini setup steps for Cakewalk by Bandlabs that worked reliably:

1. Connect the Pro Mini via USB to the PC. Don't start Cakewalk yet.
2. Set the Oxygen Pro Mini to Cubase mode:  a) toggle the DAW/Preset button so it is lighted; b) press and hold it  until DAW appears in the Pro Mini display; c) use the Encoder knob directly below the display to scroll to CUBASE, and then press down (click) the Encoder knob to set the Pro Mini to CUBASE mode.
3. Start Cakewalk and select New Project >> (Basic or Blank project will do.)
4. Go to Edit >> Preferences in Cakewalk, or press P on the computer keyboard to bring up the Preferences window.   
5. Select MIDI >> Devices.
6. Under Input Drivers, check Oxygen Pro Mini and MIDIIN3 (Oxygen Pro Mini)
7. Under Output Drivers, check Oxygen Pro Mini
8. Click Apply. (Don't click OK yet.)
9. Select MIDI >> Control Surfaces
10. Click the yellow start button next to the red X button. In the popup window, click the Controller/Surface dropdown and select Mackie Control. Click the dropdown for Input Port and select MIDIIN3 (Oxygen Pro Mini). Click the dropdown for Output Port and select None.  Click OK to exit this popup window.
11. Click Apply (just to be sure), and click OK to exit the Preferences window.
12. Select Utilities >> Mackie Control.  It takes a moment to load.
13. Under Protocol, select Mackie Control Universal (Cubase Mode) Click the X at top right of this popup to close it.

Testing the Oxygen Pro Mini setup in Cakewalk

• In track mode in Cakewalk, select the Plugins tab from the Cakewalk Browser.  Find a VST2 or VST instrument. I suggest a Piano VST for this. 
• Drag and drop the instrument to the Track window; accept defaults and add it as a Simple Instrument track.
• Click the small keyboard icon in the top left of the new track. The instrument control window will pop up.  (Many VSTs require you to load a program or preset in this popup in order to hear sounds. Some don't need this extra step.)
• Play some keys on the keyboard. If you don't hear sounds, check the In/Out section of the vertical track window on the left. It may work as Omni, but if not, trying changing it to MIDIIN3 (Oxygen Pro Mini) in the Input dropdown.  The Output dropdown should be set to Master. If still no sound, be aware that some VST instruments use only a subset of the piano keyboard. 
• While you're looking at the vertical track control strip, right click on the channel fader.  Select Remote Control in the popup.  Select the Controller radio button.  Click the Learn button.  Now, on the Oxygen Pro Mini, move the first fader fully up and down once.  Click OK to exit the popup.  Now moving the physical slider on the Pro Mini should move the track fader in Cakewalk. 
• Again, in the Cakewalk track strip, right click the Pan control.  Select Remote Control, select the Controller radio button, click Learn, and now rotate the leftmost knob above the pads fully from stop to stop. Click OK.  now the leftmost physical knob on the Oxygen Pro Mini should move the Cakewalk channel pan left and right. This may require some "tuning" to get right. 
• Right click the fader in the Master channel next to the current instrument track.  Same steps as before, except when it's time to move a physical fader on the Pro Mini, move the rightmost fader once through it's highest and lowest levels.  The Master fader in Cakewalk should move with the righmost Pro Mini fader, and the leftmost Pro Mini fader should still move the Instrument track fader. 

If this all works, if you have the Instrument's popup window open, and if you click the DAW/Preset button on the Pro Mini so that it is now not lighted, press and hold that button to bring up the Preset display on the Pro Mini.  Turn the Encoder knob, below the display, till you reach Preset 9. Click the Encoder knob down to select this user preset.  Once you have this, you should be able to assign some controls in the VST Instrument's control window to physical controls on the Oxygen Pro Mini.  When you have these as you like them, remember to save the Preset with the name "Preset 9" in Cakewalk. 

I can't promise that this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.  If there's a better way, let me know.

 

WOW - I hope you are still reading this thread - I bought my Oxygen Pro Mini in June 2022 - and for the life of me couldn't figure out how to make Cakewalk interact with it - and all the detailed Youtube videos I watched didn't quite get me anywhere...but your revised instructions here seem to have nailed it! 

I at first thought only one or two of the Faders worked - until I realised that the other 2 or 3 Faders need the others to be ABOVE ZERO for you to be able to hear what they all are doing

(i.e. if all of them are set to Zero - then it's likely adjusting just one of them won't let you hear what the others are capable of doing - so it's best to have them all AT LEAST slightly above Zero)

And likewise at first I thought only one of 4 knobs was working - until again I found the other 3 will do something under certain adjustments of MORE than just one of the knobs

I've now got the Oxygen Pro Mini attached to my Fender Mustang GT-40 guitar modelling amp (on which I've created a tone with guitar FX) - and the Oxygen is also connected to my new Behringer Pro-800 analogue synthesizer (on which I created a Preset) - so the 3 of them are working "together"

And my Yamaha PSR EW425 Arranger keyboard is connected to Cakewalk to play VST instruments with my other hand

THANK YOU for writing such a comprehensive list with all your own trials

I've also managed to get knowledge on the Arp shortcuts by watching this -

https://youtu.be/CrDsi-SrKoU

- although I still can't figure out how to get the Arp to play more than the "latest" 3 or 4 notes I press in a sequence of say 10 to 20 notes

Thanks again :-)