Terry Andrews Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Hello all! I recently purchased an Arturia Keylad Essential 49 midi controller, the problem I'm having is I cannot use the unit for the DAW controls. On Cakewalk under preferences, control surfaces,there is no functiion for 'mackie control'. I contacted Arturia and apparently 'the MCE control surface protocol is not working on Cakewalk by Bandlad'. How do I fix this? Thank you! Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginaldStjohn Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I am sure someone will be along shortly that either has this controller or understands the controller setup better then I do. In the meantime, forum member @azslow3, has made a patch of the cakewalk control surface api that is very flexible. https://www.azslow.com/index.php/board,3.0.html However, there should be a Mackie Control driver selectable when you make a control surface. can you include some screen shots of what you are doing and what you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azslow3 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I recommend to start with Mackie Control. From what I know it should be installed with CbB. There is no ready to use AZ Controller preset for that device. Making such preset requires quite some knowledge and time (even so the result may be more usable then Mackie mode with standard CbB plug-in, when done properly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Sasor Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Mackie Control is standard in the installer, you just have to add a surface instance on that page of the Preferences and choose the appropriate ports- assuming the Arturia controller uses that protocol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simeon Amburgey Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Terry Andrews said: Hello all! I recently purchased an Arturia Keylad Essential 49 midi controller, the problem I'm having is I cannot use the unit for the DAW controls. On Cakewalk under preferences, control surfaces,there is no functiion for 'mackie control'. I contacted Arturia and apparently 'the MCE control surface protocol is not working on Cakewalk by Bandlad'. How do I fix this? Thank you! Terry Terry, I am not sure what MCE protocol the Arturia uses but in the case of my Studiologic MIXFACE, I had to disable HANDSHAKING, along with putting the MIXFACE into MCU CUBASE mode and then selecting that for the Cakewalk Mackie Control dialog as well. Edited October 17, 2022 by Simeon Amburgey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Argo Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/18/2022 at 4:08 AM, Jonathan Sasor said: Mackie Control is standard in the installer, you just have to add a surface instance on that page of the Preferences and choose the appropriate ports- assuming the Arturia controller uses that protocol. Cakewalk put "Control Surface Plugin installer" out of default Cakewalk installer since SONAR Platinum era. That means, unless you have SONAR installed prior to CbB, you can't have full access to the Cakewalk Control Surface Plugins in CbB. You can download the Cakewalk Control Surface Plugins here : https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013438/Control-Surface-Installers But the problem is, the installer won't let you install it unless you have SONAR. I kindly remind the dev team many times about it since BandLab took Cakewalk in about 2018. So please have a look at it, and correct me if I'm wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azslow3 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 hours ago, James Argo said: Cakewalk put "Control Surface Plugin installer" out of default Cakewalk installer since SONAR Platinum era. That means, unless you have SONAR installed prior to CbB, you can't have full access to the Cakewalk Control Surface Plugins in CbB. You can download the Cakewalk Control Surface Plugins here : https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013438/Control-Surface-Installers But the problem is, the installer won't let you install it unless you have SONAR. I kindly remind the dev team many times about it since BandLab took Cakewalk in about 2018. So please have a look at it, and correct me if I'm wrong ? That is definitively not currently foreseen way to get current Mackie plug-in. There was significant updates recently. Note that in current Cakewalk by Bandlab version you should see "Copyright 2022..." in the lower right corner of the plug-in interface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Argo Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 18 hours ago, azslow3 said: That is definitively not currently foreseen way to get current Mackie plug-in. There was significant updates recently. I'm sorry I didn't make it clear... You are right, Mackie Control is on the list by default ? But since we're on topic, what I'm trying to get was a little bit of attention from developers team regarding Control Surface Plugins Installer as well. If you don't have Sonar installed prior to CbB, by default now you only have 5 Control Surfaces in a list to select. However, with Cakewalk Control Surface plugins installer, you have many available (Roland, Tascam, etc). The problem is the Control Surface Plugins installer requires Sonar (any version) being present to install. If only the dev team can "remove" the requirement from the Control Surface Plugins installer, and re-release it, I hope any new CbB users (who doesn't have Sonar) can also benefit from it. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) I don't have the KeyLab Essential, but here is how Cakewalk works with my KeyLab MkII using the new Cakewalk Mackie Control Universal (Cubase mode). Edited October 20, 2022 by abacab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Andrews Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 Hello, had surgery recently. Haven't been able to reply. I thank you all for the suggestions. Even got a reply from Arturia as well as Cakewalk for suggestions. Will try out those when I get a chance. Again, thank you all. Fantastic group! Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Andrews Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Hi everybody, me again. Nope, can't get the DAW(on keyboard) to work. Tried all of your suggestions, no luck On James Argo post, I can't seem to find 'Controller/Surface Settings' box with the drop down settings. Obviously, I'm doing something wrong.... Suggestions? Sorry for the stupid question(s), I am a noob. Thanks! Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azslow3 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Terry Andrews said: On James Argo post, I can't seem to find 'Controller/Surface Settings' box with the drop down settings. Obviously, I'm doing something wrong.... Suggestions? Press the button it to top right corner, so right from "X" button. Horizontal at the level of "Import ACT Data...". That is "+" button, drawn a bit unfortunate for noobs (I remember I also was confused... looong time ago ?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Montgomery Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Anybody know if Cakewalk by BandLab is planning on implementing NKS (Native Kontrol Standard)? Native Instruments has bought up 2 of my biggest vendors ( iZotope being the biggest), and they appear to be acquiring more. I think it would be a huge mistake not to capture all of that with a simple Controller Surface protocol addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user 905133 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) Wait a sec. Didn't you ask this (or something like it) already? I just read a post that sounded very similar. UPDATE: Found it! 19 minutes ago, John Montgomery said: Does anyone know if CbB Sonar is going to implement the NKS (Native Kontrol Standard) protocol? Native Instruments is acquiring/partnering with several larger vendors (iZotope, being one of them). and lack of hardware protocol support appears to be a real loss of opportunity. I would think it would be a really big bang for not a huge programming task. Edited May 30 by User 905133 to add an update: a very similar post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiee Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 @John Montgomery you do appear to have posted the exact same question twice, did you intend too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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