jesse g Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) Hey folks, I found a Scarlett 18i20 2nd Gen audio Interface brand new being sold from the Focusrite site for a steal. Click on the link to take advantage of the deal. I already have a 3rd Gen one, but for the person who needs one and doesn't want to pay full price, the price is "rite". Get it, Focus - rite,... (Nevermind) Focusrite 18i20 Gen 2 Edited September 20, 2022 by jesse g 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Wow, it sold too fast!? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 Ok, I got another one for you. Straight from Focusrite warehouse, this is how I bought mine. I am not sure if this one is the same listing as the other one. Scarlett 18i20 2nd Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Sweet deal thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Last Call said: Wow, it sold too fast!? ? It is still available from the Focusrite warehouse location, I just looked at it and then added it to my cart then went to check out and it was still there. Oh, I see there are 10 of them remaining Edited September 20, 2022 by jesse g 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMcGuitar Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 They still actively update drivers for these. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, RSMcGuitar said: They still actively update drivers for these. That is correct, drives were just updated June 2022, That is what makes it such a good buy. The Focusrite control for this Gen 2 is that same as the Gen 3. The version is Focusrite Control - 3.11.0.19833.11, which includes the current drivers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 Post here and let us know if you took advantage of the deal! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 11 hours ago, jesse g said: Post here and let us know if you took advantage of the deal! ? I didn't do the deal, because I am happy with my Scarlett 2i2 3rd gen, a flawless unit with great ASIO latency. Don't need the extra audio ins and outs. But comparing the overall specs on the 18i20 2nd and 3rd gen units, the improvements on the 3rd gen seem marginally better. I would go for the 2nd gen if I needed the extra capacity today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I was going to say I am waiting and saving for the Clarett+ 8, but I realized it's too expensive so I am aiming for the Audient iD44 Mk II (although yeah, the Clarett has 8 inputs so idk). I am looking for a decent headphone output and Scarletts and M1 (Motu) aren't good at all for my needs. (Read Claretts have a better headphone output than Scarletts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Last Call said: I was going to say I am waiting and saving for the Clarett+ 8, but I realized it's too expensive so I am aiming for the Audient iD44 Mk II (although yeah, the Clarett has 8 inputs so idk). I am looking for a decent headphone output and Scarletts and M1 (Motu) aren't good at all for my needs. (Read Claretts have a better headphone output than Scarletts). I have never used the headphone outs on any of my audio interfaces since I got the original Mackie Big Knob. I bring my audio into the Big Knob from my interface and then distribute it to where it needs to go. Edited September 21, 2022 by jesse g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 hours ago, jesse g said: I have never used the headphone outs on any of my audio interfaces since I got the original Mackie Big Knob. I bring my audio into the Big Knob from my interface and then distribute it to where it needs to go. Fair enough. Where do you plug your headphones then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Last Call said: Fair enough. Where do you plug your headphones then? For my use, I plug then directly into the the Big Knob head phone jack on the front (two of them). For the artist, I have a Presonus HP4 headphone amp coming out of the head phone amp outputs at the rear of the Big Knob. Edited September 21, 2022 by jesse g 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fret_man Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 15 hours ago, Last Call said: I was going to say I am waiting and saving for the Clarett+ 8, but I realized it's too expensive so I am aiming for the Audient iD44 Mk II (although yeah, the Clarett has 8 inputs so idk). I am looking for a decent headphone output and Scarletts and M1 (Motu) aren't good at all for my needs. (Read Claretts have a better headphone output than Scarletts). This guy does a great job comparing headphone outputs for a variety of audio interfaces: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, jesse g said: For my use, I plug then directly into the the Big Knob head phone jack on the front (two of them). For the artist, I have a Presonus HP4 headphone amp coming out of the head phone amp outputs at the rear of the Big Knob. That Big knob looks amazing, they have several models, I thought you had the passive controller box. Do you like it a lot? (Headphone output) What headphones do you have? I have the Sennheiser HD820, love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fret_man Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I stole this headphone summary from one of Julian's videos. It seems the 18i20 3rd generation has mediocre headphone performance. Don't know about Gen2 but Julian mentioned gen3 didn't changed much in this regard, so I'll assume gen2 is also not an excellent headphone driver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 The bad thing about Julian is I think he's deaf. He measures stuff with gear or equipment, not with his ears. I find Scarlett's so so, UAD the worst ever (arrow interface), Adi 2 DAC worse than worst ( line outputs into a headphone amp sounds way better), babyface prob has the best I have ever tested, Audient id44 very decent at least. The issue for me is stuff in the highs and mid highs sound thin, no body or weight. A friend of mine 20 years ago had an maudio interface (lowest tier) and it sounded way better than what has come put in the last 15 years or so. I even had an Mbox original, that thing sounded good at least. That's my POV, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Last Call said: That Big knob looks amazing, they have several models, I thought you had the passive controller box. Do you like it a lot? (Headphone output) What headphones do you have? I have the Sennheiser HD820, love them. Last Call, I love having the Big Knob connected to my interface, I can connect everything to the Big Knob and from it, I can connect to everything. I have 3 sets of monitors connected to the BK (Big Knob), a media player, and a head phone amp. I have the following: Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 250 Ohm (Open and Closed Back) Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO 250 Ohm (Open and Closed Back) KRK KNS 8400 headphones (Closed Back) Edited September 21, 2022 by jesse g 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) Your model is discontinued, it looks amazing, sad face: https://www.proacousticsusa.com/mackie-big-knob-studio-command-system.html Found it on Reverb https://reverb.com/item/61061682-mackie-big-knob-studio-command-system-church-owned-cg00lka Now it's like this https://www.amazon.com/Mackie-BIG-KNOB-STUDIO-Studio/dp/B01N9QNWRY Or a passive box (no headphones output) Edited September 21, 2022 by Last Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Last Call said: Your model is discontinued, it looks amazing, sad face: They discontinued it a while back, however, the Mackie Big Knob original will always be the better unit. It has more inputs and outputs Found it on Reverb Yea, its a good unit to purchase Now it's like this The Mackie Big Knob Series, 4x3 is more like the Big Knob original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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